Constitutions do not give rights. They enumarate them.Well I know Oregon has one hell of a state constitution which gives a lot more rights then ours does, at least this is what i have heard.
I am sure it is both. He knows what he heard.Izzle wrote:Constitutions do not give rights. They enumarate them.Well I know Oregon has one hell of a state constitution which gives a lot more rights then ours does, at least this is what i have heard.
Do you know the Oregon Constitution has more protections of rights, or is this something you have just heard? I'm confused by your statement.
My questions to you would be "Are strip clubs a major issue for you? Otherwise what difference does it make? Washington is more consistant in that the state law prevails over everyone everwhere. Cities and countiescan't write there own, so in Washington, the same rules apply everywhere. Not like Oregon cities outlawing OC without a CPL. How the hell can a Concealed Pistol License be required for Open Carry? It's a fricken oxymoron. Oh yeah, and Oregon does not allow OC or CC on ATVs or snowmobiles.Sorry should have made myself clearer. I know that on issues that matter most to me they have a great track record with. For example their freedom of speech laws are very broad to the point that even strip clubs fall under freedom of speech where as here cities can restrict them. Not like the strip clubs are a big deal I just love how broad the freedom of speech goes in the state. Here is a quick artical that looks at Washington vs Oregon. I just hate how this state has more and more nanny laws everyday.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003336880_portlandclubs02m.html
I did say that the actual club is not a big deal to me i just love how their free speach laws cover so much. And also I don't like how many more and more nanny laws this state is thinking up all the time such as indoor smoking. I'll agree with you on the OC stuff but I was trying to look at a broader spectrum then just firearms.Izzle wrote:My questions to you would be "Are strip clubs a major issue for you? Otherwise what difference does it make? Washington is more consistant in that the state law prevails over everyone everwhere. Cities and countiescan't write there own, so in Washington, the same rules apply everywhere. Not like Oregon cities outlawing OC without a CPL. How the hell can a Concealed Pistol License be required for Open Carry? It's a fricken oxymoron. Oh yeah, and Oregon does not allow OC or CC on ATVs or snowmobiles.Sorry should have made myself clearer. I know that on issues that matter most to me they have a great track record with. For example their freedom of speech laws are very broad to the point that even strip clubs fall under freedom of speech where as here cities can restrict them. Not like the strip clubs are a big deal I just love how broad the freedom of speech goes in the state. Here is a quick artical that looks at Washington vs Oregon. I just hate how this state has more and more nanny laws everyday.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003336880_portlandclubs02m.html
Oregon and Washington both outlaw smoking in public areas. So again, what's the difference? Do you smoke? If not what the hell difference does it make?Bear 45/70 wrote:I did say that the actual club is not a big deal to me i just love how their free speach laws cover so much. And also I don't like how many more and more nanny laws this state is thinking up all the time such as indoor smoking. I'll agree with you on the OC stuff but I was trying to look at a broader spectrum then just firearms.Izzle wrote:My questions to you would be "Are strip clubs a major issue for you? Otherwise what difference does it make? Washington is more consistant in that the state law prevails over everyone everwhere. Cities and countiescan't write there own, so in Washington, the same rules apply everywhere. Not like Oregon cities outlawing OC without a CPL. How the hell can a Concealed Pistol License be required for Open Carry? It's a fricken oxymoron. Oh yeah, and Oregon does not allow OC or CC on ATVs or snowmobiles.Sorry should have made myself clearer. I know that on issues that matter most to me they have a great track record with. For example their freedom of speech laws are very broad to the point that even strip clubs fall under freedom of speech where as here cities can restrict them. Not like the strip clubs are a big deal I just love how broad the freedom of speech goes in the state. Here is a quick artical that looks at Washington vs Oregon. I just hate how this state has more and more nanny laws everyday.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003336880_portlandclubs02m.html
Oregon and Washington both outlaw smoking in public areas. So again, what's the difference? Do you smoke? If not what the hell difference does it make?
And if they do if you live close enough to either ID or OR border you can get around that one pretty easily.My questions to you would be "Are strip clubs a major issue for you? Otherwise what difference does it make?
I just hate how this state has more and more nanny laws everyday."
Why don't we start a movement to amend the state constitution to prevent nanny laws. Perhaps something along the line of " No resident of the state shall be prohibited from engaging in any activity unless that activity presents an immediate hazard to another party."
Not according to my sister who has livedin Alaskafor 40 years. Their economy is dead. The only bright point is their state check this year is up to $3200 apeice (thanks to the oil industry screwing the rest of use). She and her husband are leaving and moving here to Washington State, right after their checks arrive. It has taken them 3 years and a $60K drop in price to unload their house.The answer to this question is obvious... Alaska, duh :uhoh:
One of the most incredibly retarded firearms laws we have.Oregon also prohibits the carry of any loaded firearm, both long and short guns,regardless of a CPL on ATVs and snowmobiles. Washington has no such idiocy.
So you're saying... cheap houses in Alaska? Yay!Shy_Panda wrote:Not according to my sister who has livedin Alaskafor 40 years. Their economy is dead. The only bright point is their state check this year is up to $3200 apeice (thanks to the oil industry screwing the rest of use). She and her husband are leaving and moving here to Washington State, right after their checks arrive. It has taken them 3 years and a $60K drop in price to unload their house.The answer to this question is obvious... Alaska, duh :uhoh: