Wynder
State Researcher
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Tomahawk wrote:
Basically, it all boils down to this -- and this is why the country is founded on property rights -- once you're on someone elses private property, your rights go away. You may not speak freely, your religious views are invalid, you may not bear arms, you may be searched at whim... Unless the property owner says otherwise.
However, and I think this is where it gets more interesting, let's assume the above scenario takes place in my house. Let's move it to a place of business... If some of those restrictions are placed on the customers, that can be protested by a boycott -- the business looses money and eventually shuts down. Once again, let's move the same argument to an academic environment... public pressure to allow the right to free speech and to stop invasive searches are all that can really be done.
So, since we're off on a different, but somewhat related, topic, how about thoughts to that respect in a business and academic environment?
Tomahawk wrote:
Well, more of for a matter of opinion, since all three of these methods of handling firearms on private property exist today, but I agree that it's an interesting concept.
Since this thread started with a question about what you thinkthe law should be, not what it is, all this talk of licensing and laws on the books is not firm.
I don't believe in forcing business owners to get a license to persue happiness, any more than I think you need a license to own a gun or worship your deity.
Also, you are right about the word "fair" getting you laughed at in a courtroom, but I think it's interesting to discuss the meaning of the word and its relation to the concept of rights.
Basically, it all boils down to this -- and this is why the country is founded on property rights -- once you're on someone elses private property, your rights go away. You may not speak freely, your religious views are invalid, you may not bear arms, you may be searched at whim... Unless the property owner says otherwise.
However, and I think this is where it gets more interesting, let's assume the above scenario takes place in my house. Let's move it to a place of business... If some of those restrictions are placed on the customers, that can be protested by a boycott -- the business looses money and eventually shuts down. Once again, let's move the same argument to an academic environment... public pressure to allow the right to free speech and to stop invasive searches are all that can really be done.
So, since we're off on a different, but somewhat related, topic, how about thoughts to that respect in a business and academic environment?