ixtow
Founder's Club Member
Texas - Florida - Oklahoma - South Carolina - Arkansas
Which do you think will be the first to turn Gold?
Which do you think will be the first to turn Gold?
Ok, Oklahoma? I think you're the sleeper, here. You've long been a state with your finger on the pulse of the nation, and generally respective, if not hands off, on people's rights. To date, that seems to have served you well, but I don't think you want the criminals fleeing from other recent OC states to come flocking to yours.
Half of my kin are from Oklahoma, and I've been there, and through there, many times. I actually like the place, and danced a whirling dirvish when my Mom sold her third of a bunch of acres south of Oklahoma City a few years back. It's not so much that I wanted to live there as it is that I would have had an option to do so. As the land was as yet undeveloped (farmland, except for a dilapidated acre plot), I could have easily built a beautiful tornado-proof home/shelter for actually less (a lot less) than what the average same-sq ft home price is going for (I'd been tweaking the plans since 1983).
Unless another house landed on it, of course. :rollseyes:
Rule #1: Don't EVER sell land, especially in a selfish pitch for an ocean cruise during the last 10 years of a very long, happy, and fulfilled life... Over time, that land will only become more valuable, and that's something the pics from the ocean cruise just don't cut it for me and my kin which must survive the kin that sold it for a freakin' cruise! It's a little hard to "live off the land" when the land you expected to live off was sold out from underneath you to pay for a freakin' round the world cruise.
How many kin do you suppose 140 acres would support? Hmm??? I'm thinking it would support more than we actually had in line to inherit the plot, but as of a couple of years ago, that part of my inheritance became wind.
Seriously, folks - this is not a rant against what happened in my family. It's a warning to prevent the same from happening in yours. Land, especially arable land, is scarce. Developers would have you believe that it's only worth $x an acre, but if that were true, they wouldn't be offering that price to you (they're in it for the money, not to "take it off your hands.")
Hang onto it for all it's worth, which is considerably, potentially vastly more than any stated value.
Actually, SB 234 does not affect intrastate private sales. Lines 159 through 166 that prescribe a NICS background check only apply to out-of-state long gun sales. This language is intended to enable Florida residents, like residents of many other states, to purchase long guns through out-of-state FFLs by providing that the Florida state background checks do not apply to out-of-state FFL transactions that go through NICS. Because federal law requires FFL sales to nonresidents to comply with the laws of both the state in which the transfer occurs and the transferee's state of residence, the current Florida law does not permit out-of-state FFLs to sell or transfer long guns to Florida residents.FL isn't even attempting to go for Gold. They're going for Green with a Suspicion-less stop and ID on demand clause, to boot. It also throws in a requirement for all firearm sales to go through NICS.
New Jersey with Palm Trees. Those caveats in the Bill eliminate more Rights in exchange for a mildly augmented Privilege. I say it's a crappy trade that sets us back several steps in the broader context of Rights, while pretending to take a step forward with OC.
If all you care about is carrying a gun where it can be seen, and are willing to give up actual Rights to get that... It's a lot like giving up freedom for safety, wouldn't you say? Pay, beg for permission, be treated like a child molester for life, have no 4th or 5th Amendment protections anymore, and no more private transfers, just so you can show your gun to people...
At least with FL's current situation, while no OC, we can still do private transfers without calling NICS and we still have a 4th and 5th Amendment... If HB 234 passes, we'll lose those in favor of an state-appointed only-one's privilege to OC...
Not worth it. Not even close.
The better poll question is which "Gold" state will actually act like one for once?
I was trying to get a head's up on who was really paying attention....
Which states are even trying to be Gold as opposed to Green? Does anyone even know? Yet the voting has occurred...
Me too. I live in Texas. But I wouldn't bet a plugged nickel that Texas will be the next to turn Gold. I wouldn't even bet they'll be next to legalize licensed OC.I put my money where my mouth is.
I have land in TX.
Me too. I live in Texas. But I wouldn't be a plugged nickel that Texas will be the next to turn Gold. I wouldn't even bet they'll be next to legalize licensed OC.