porterhouse83 said:
I like their argument that we do it for attention. That's all I ever hear.
There's always the "poorly-endowed" argument. Being a fairly well-endowed woman, I always laugh at that.
And how about the "uneducated" argument? Having several degrees, I laugh at that one too.
I will reluctantly admit to occasionally being a redneck, when I forget my sunblock.
GG&S said:
let's say you are in a conveince [sic] store and a perp comes in with the intent to rob the place and see's [sic] you with your gun on your hip, the first thing he is going to do is disarm you or shoot you before you have time to draw your weapon.
:cuss: :banghead: For once, I agree with Doug - not this again!
sawah said:
There have only been a handful of reports of any OC-er being disarmed and one of them is questionable.
I've started collecting news reports of these extremely rare events... and they are rare, otherwise they wouldn't make the news.
- I know of one case (here in Milwaukee) where an OCer was robbed of his pistol at gunpoint.
- I've read of one where someone walking down the street was attacked, his gun grabbed, & a passer-by helped get it back before the criminal ran off. (I think this was near Cleveland, OH, but not sure.)
- I've read of one where a criminal [feral teen with a record], upon entering a stop-n-rob to rob the store, saw someone OC & shot him. (I think this was in Michigan.)
- I've read of one where a big-box greeter tried to grab someone's pistol as he entered the store, & the greeter ended up in surgery later that day. (No news reports; can't confirm truth.)
Compared to the perhaps hundreds of thousands who carry openly every day, that's statistically zero.
GG&S said:
As for me Concealed Carrying and being viewed as an easy target, that's OK with me. I don't want to postpone a criminal from doing what he already has planned and just causing him to wait until I've left, coming back later or going somewhere else to commit his crime because he saw my gun. It is better to get it over with while there is someone there that has an opportunity to stop a criminal act. They need to be apprehended or stopped before they have a chance to terrorize, hurt or kill someone.
I don't carry in order to play police officer & clean up society's mess.
I carry to be able to go home to my own bed, alive.
I hope I
NEVER have to harm anyone, but I will to preserve my own life, or that of a family member, or any child.
An adult who is not related to me who is in apparent danger, I will consider the situation before responding.
I will at least call police, probably shout at the attacker (the cockroaches don't like witnesses), and possibly approach if I can do so without risking myself.
If I'm positive that the apparent victim is the real victim & would be entitled to act in self-defense (and really does now want to be able to defend herself) I might bring the pistol into the situation.
Most every other adult has the same choices I usually do* w/r/t self-defense:
do I protect myself, & if so, what's the best way for me?
Who am I to override someone's decision, made from knowledge of their own beliefs & morals, about their own protection or lack thereof? How very arrogant that would be!
*[
At the moment, I'm not allowed to protect myself except at home, but that should be taken care of soon.]