poetdante
Regular Member
I have had several interactions, where while I am open carrying (or even at school and am not even carrying at all), and when somebody sees my gun or learns I am into guns, they ask if I have my conceal carry license. I usually ask why it should matter since I open carry and it does not need a permit in KY, and they just go off on a rant saying "you shouldn't open carry". Even pro-gun students in my pro-2A group think people shouldn't open carry. It's like CC is a cult (don't get me wrong, I'll CC on occassion, but not because I want to CC, but because it's getting colder and I don't have any vests and need to use a coat.
Tonight, I had a CCW instructor call me "stupid" for OC'ing. To his credit, I implied his incompetence -
Random guy at park is unloading his car asks me if I have my CCDWL.
I ask why it should matter since I am OC'ing.
Because what I am doing (OC'ing at 4:00, not in complete view in front of me) is illegal. He just got his CCDWL and his instructor said so.
"You know what the difference between the CCW student and most CCW instructors is? An extra hour and a few signatures. Doesn't mean they know the law, just to teach what the State tells them in the video)."
His buddy asks "now what's the question, because I'm his instructor"
"Is what I am doing illegal, is this open carry?" Showing him where my gun was
"What is that some crappy glock? It's stupid is what that is. Someone's going to just take that from you"
I just walk off, my dog was waiting on some treats for doing good training and I had to get to him before he forgot. I didn't even bother to correct him on it being an HK P30 in a custom-made holster that I train with weekly (since he was implying I was careless).
I expect this kind of stuff from anti-gunners or ignorant folks. But all of MY pro-2A rights efforts are equally hindered by people who CC. They are all taught that you shouldn't OC by their instructors (I was, I didn't believe so many could be but here we had another instructor). How can they claim to want freedom to carry but wish to deny people the choice in how to carry? Can I then say that CC'ers are lazy at situational awareness?
I'm at a loss for words in argument with my fellow carriers when they start going wide eyed and hysterical when I say I like to OC more. Like anti-gunners, they don't even listen to the facts and statistics I try telling them. They resort to name calling and temper tantrums. I feel like this is a problem in the gun community as a whole. I have seen 3 OCers outside this forum in public in the 2 years I have been carrying.
Tonight, I had a CCW instructor call me "stupid" for OC'ing. To his credit, I implied his incompetence -
Random guy at park is unloading his car asks me if I have my CCDWL.
I ask why it should matter since I am OC'ing.
Because what I am doing (OC'ing at 4:00, not in complete view in front of me) is illegal. He just got his CCDWL and his instructor said so.
"You know what the difference between the CCW student and most CCW instructors is? An extra hour and a few signatures. Doesn't mean they know the law, just to teach what the State tells them in the video)."
His buddy asks "now what's the question, because I'm his instructor"
"Is what I am doing illegal, is this open carry?" Showing him where my gun was
"What is that some crappy glock? It's stupid is what that is. Someone's going to just take that from you"
I just walk off, my dog was waiting on some treats for doing good training and I had to get to him before he forgot. I didn't even bother to correct him on it being an HK P30 in a custom-made holster that I train with weekly (since he was implying I was careless).
I expect this kind of stuff from anti-gunners or ignorant folks. But all of MY pro-2A rights efforts are equally hindered by people who CC. They are all taught that you shouldn't OC by their instructors (I was, I didn't believe so many could be but here we had another instructor). How can they claim to want freedom to carry but wish to deny people the choice in how to carry? Can I then say that CC'ers are lazy at situational awareness?
I'm at a loss for words in argument with my fellow carriers when they start going wide eyed and hysterical when I say I like to OC more. Like anti-gunners, they don't even listen to the facts and statistics I try telling them. They resort to name calling and temper tantrums. I feel like this is a problem in the gun community as a whole. I have seen 3 OCers outside this forum in public in the 2 years I have been carrying.