Woodcarver was shot four times in his side by officer, autopsy shows

[gogodawgs]

Birk got out of his car and followed Williams onto the sidewalk. He shouted at Williams to get his attention and ordered him three times to put down the knife. About four seconds after the first command, Birk fired when Williams didn't respond.

Can you imagine if he had shot one of us? Deros? M1Gunr? gogodawgs? G20? Mainsail? etc....

I sincerely hope that the SPD understands the 4th Amendment, the 2nd Amendment and the Rights of Man...

 

[protias]

I really hope Birk does get charged criminally. It isn't right he is getting away with murder.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

I really hope Birk does get charged criminally. It isn't right he is getting away with murder.

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Right? A little excessive death be damned.

 

[marshaul]

Or as brought out in the open carry brigade threads, "Another isolated incident", I am just curious how many "isolated incidents" can still be considered "isolated".

In the eyes of apologists, an unlimited number.

We're obviously well into the territory of systemic problems. But some insist on chanting "a few bad apples" and "isolated incident", likely on the assumption that a lie, repeated often enough, becomes truth.

 

[protias]

In the eyes of apologists, an unlimited number.

We're obviously well into the territory of systemic problems. But some insist on chanting "a few bad apples" and "isolated incident", likely on the assumption that a lie, repeated often enough, becomes truth.

All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true within itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. —Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. Xhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie#cite_note-mein-kampf-james-murphy-0

 

[marshaul]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014913811_settlement30m.html

Satterberg said state law prohibited him from filing charges because Birk believed Williams, who was carrying a knife, posed a threat. Satterberg said there was no evidence Birk acted with malice, noting that police officers are given more protection against criminal prosecution for homicide than ordinary citizens.

:banghead:

Notes:
Legislative recognition: "The legislature recognizes that RCW 9A.16.040 establishes a dual standard with respect to the use of deadly force by peace officers and private citizens, and further recognizes that private citizens' permissible use of deadly force under the authority of RCW 9.01.200, 9A.16.020, or 9A.16.050 is not restricted and remains broader than the limitations imposed on peace officers." [1986 c 209 § 3.]

Seriously, I just can't get over my disgust. There are no words strong enough...

 

[HandyHamlet]

It's gotta be that way. Catch 22.

If we were able to hold our civil employees accountable we would have no courts, cops, law makers.... Nothing after about three weeks. The jails would be overflowing with real criminals for once. We would have to let the evil marijuana heads out to make room. And we couldn't have those guys roaming the streets.

So it's corruption and incompetence and murder. Or stoners roaming free.

YIKES!

 

[amlevin]

It's gotta be that way. Catch 22.

If we were able to hold our civil employees accountable we would have no courts, cops, law makers.... Nothing after about three weeks. The jails would be overflowing with real criminals for once. We would have to let the evil marijuana heads out to make room. And we couldn't have those guys roaming the streets.

So it's corruption and incompetence and murder. Or stoners roaming free.

YIKES!

Yet today it appears that those who are making our laws are stoned themselves. Some are in jail and others are in "City Hall".

 

[jt59]

Hopefully the City of Seattle will not just see this settlement as a "cost of doing business".

They've got a ways to go to see that this doesn't happen again. Likewise with the other abuses of citizens by overbearing, overreacting, police officers.

Business as usual..........settle it, and settle it fast....

"According to the city attorney's statement, the mediation followed "positive meetings" aimed at building trust between Seattle police and the Native-American community.

"The parties are pleased to be able to resolve the case without protracted litigation that could have incurred hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees," the statement said.

Kimberly Mills, spokeswoman for City Attorney Pete Holmes, said she couldn't discuss what occurred in mediation.

"I can say that city attorneys looked at cases around the country and the $1.5 million was within the range the City expected to settle for," she said in an email."

They've got a long ways to go IMHO....and, as long as the affected individuals and the community continues to see and accept these "mediated settlements" with protected (penalizing) disclosures on a case that takes it out of the legal system, it will never ultimately build any foundational case law, and it will continue until the next time.

 

[amlevin]

Business as usual..........settle it, and settle it fast....

"According to the city attorney's statement, the mediation followed "positive meetings" aimed at building trust between Seattle police and the Native-American community.

"The parties are pleased to be able to resolve the case without protracted litigation that could have incurred hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees," the statement said.

Kimberly Mills, spokeswoman for City Attorney Pete Holmes, said she couldn't discuss what occurred in mediation.

"I can say that city attorneys looked at cases around the country and the $1.5 million was within the range the City expected to settle for," she said in an email."

They've got a long ways to go IMHO....and, as long as the affected individuals and the community continues to see and accept these "mediated settlements" with protected (penalizing) disclosures on a case that takes it out of the legal system, it will never ultimately build any foundational case law, and it will continue until the next time.

Wonder how many more wrongful death settlements would have to be made if the money was taken from the PD's Payroll and Benefits fund?????? Anyone want to bet that there would be a major drop in incidents where the city would be paying out money if the offenders had to pay it? As it is, there's no "paint off their nightsticks".