40s-and-wfan
Regular Member
Okay here's my question, I've been pondering this for a while:
You're walking with your significant other and are carrying (OC or CC, doesn't matter.) A local LEO notices a 'bulge' under your shirt, firearm on your hip, etc., as you walk through the park and stops you. Upon walking up to you the LEO says, "Sir, can I see your permit to carry a concealed weapon?"
My thoughts on this are: If I'm driving down the road and obeying all laws and posted speed limits and there is no question that I'm within the law, Law Enforcement cannot stop me just to check my driver's license and make sure I have a valid one. Just because I'm in a car, commuting down the road, doesn't mean the cops can stop me at their will to make sure I'm legal. Can an LEO do pretty much the same thing if we're carrying a firearm, open or concealed?
My response to the LEO if he asks to see my permit would be, "On what grounds? I haven't committed a crime, I'm not flashing it around and I haven't done anything to put anyone at risk. Your request is unfounded and is made without the appropriate Probable Cause!"
I used to be a city police officer and have developed a somewhat 'confident air' when dealing with Law Enforcement and so I will question things if I feel I am in the right. That part may be right or wrong according to some people but that is not the matter in question. What would you do in the original scenario? Would you produce the requested license or would you want to know why if you have done nothing wrong?
You're walking with your significant other and are carrying (OC or CC, doesn't matter.) A local LEO notices a 'bulge' under your shirt, firearm on your hip, etc., as you walk through the park and stops you. Upon walking up to you the LEO says, "Sir, can I see your permit to carry a concealed weapon?"
My thoughts on this are: If I'm driving down the road and obeying all laws and posted speed limits and there is no question that I'm within the law, Law Enforcement cannot stop me just to check my driver's license and make sure I have a valid one. Just because I'm in a car, commuting down the road, doesn't mean the cops can stop me at their will to make sure I'm legal. Can an LEO do pretty much the same thing if we're carrying a firearm, open or concealed?
My response to the LEO if he asks to see my permit would be, "On what grounds? I haven't committed a crime, I'm not flashing it around and I haven't done anything to put anyone at risk. Your request is unfounded and is made without the appropriate Probable Cause!"
I used to be a city police officer and have developed a somewhat 'confident air' when dealing with Law Enforcement and so I will question things if I feel I am in the right. That part may be right or wrong according to some people but that is not the matter in question. What would you do in the original scenario? Would you produce the requested license or would you want to know why if you have done nothing wrong?