Tallahassee Democrat - Open carry bill "passage is all but assured"

[StogieC]

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/...ckin-Floridians-are-about-to-get-another-shot

Now, 23 years later, the National Rifle Association wants to undo it. And why not, with the stated support of incoming Gov. Rick Scott and huge GOP majorities in both the House and Senate? Florida is one of seven states with a full ban on open-carry. There are slim exceptions — gun owners can carry holstered weapons on their own land or while traveling to and from fishing and hunting.
State Sen. Greg Evers, a Republican from Baker, has introduced a bill to allow Florida pistol owners to carry their guns openly. The proposal also changes existing law to allow licensed owners to carry concealed guns on college campuses and at private schools.

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OpenCarry.org is a national advocacy group. Its members in Florida have an online petition — "It is an old right, not a new threat" — with 2,227 signatories. They hold regular meetups to openly carry guns. The next one is Jan. 8 in seven cities around the state. Online instructions include directions on getting a free fishing license and bringing along rods and reels to meet the exceptions allowing open-carry while on the way to angling.

Evers' bill is coming and its passage is all but assured. It's right out there in the open, and you know it's loaded.

 

[Fallschirjmäger]

That would get a big thumb's-up from me.

 

[paknon2wheels]

Looks like they require log in to read the article. :banghead:

Anyway, it sounds like progress is being made in Florida. Thanks for all the work you guys are doing to keep things moving down there.

 

[Mike]

Looks like they require log in to read the article. :banghead:

Link is live for me without registration.

 

[wrightme]

Link is live for me without registration.

Not for me.

 

[ixtow]

I picked out two serious problems with it.

1) Elimination of 4th amendment, License and ID on demand.
2) No more private transfers, NICS required for all sales.

 

[Gray Peterson]

I picked out two serious problems with it.

1) Elimination of 4th amendment, License and ID on demand.
2) No more private transfers, NICS required for all sales.

What are you talking about?

 

[StogieC]

I picked out two serious problems with it.

1) Elimination of 4th amendment, License and ID on demand.
2) No more private transfers, NICS required for all sales.

1. All or nothing, absolutist hysteria. Sorry, this is real life where things usually must be done one step at a time. Legalize, normalize, and then deregulate.

2. Absolutely false. :cuss:

I'm done feeding the trolls. :banghead:

 

[StogieC]

Looks like they require log in to read the article. :banghead:.

Try this link:
http://www.news-press.com/article/20110103/COLUMNISTS50/101030324/1002/NEWS01

 

[ixtow]

1. All or nothing, absolutist hysteria. Sorry, this is real life where things usually must be done one step at a time. Legalize, normalize, and then deregulate.

2. Absolutely false. :cuss:

I'm done feeding the trolls. :banghead:

No trolling about it, I can read... That's what it says.

 

[StogieC]

2 only applies to out of state transfers at gun dealers. Federal law dictates that for private transfers, both parties be residents of the same state.

 

[paknon2wheels]

Try this link:
http://www.news-press.com/article/20110103/COLUMNISTS50/101030324/1002/NEWS01

That one worked. Thank you.

 

[Sonora Rebel]

I resided in central and northern FL from '60 to '64 and again in '68/69. People carried guns. I dunno legally or illegally but it was done. I remember the 'shall issue' permit thing in '87, which surprised me 'cause I never thought there was a problem with it. It was just 'a right'. What happened?

 

[ixtow]

Just as is happening now, a privilege was created that required trading in Rights.

SOP for FL.

 

[James J O'Brien]

Sounds Good to me Thumbs up for me too

 

[bobthegunslinger]

open carry law

can you reference where you saw the requirement to show i.d. on demand from law enforcement.thank you!

 

[Rich7553]

can you reference where you saw the requirement to show i.d. on demand from law enforcement.thank you!

I can answer that one. SB 234 would authorize CWFL holders to carry openly at their option. §790.06 (1) states, "The licensee must carry the license, together with valid identification, at all times in which the licensee is in actual possession of a concealed weapon or firearm and must display both the license and proper identification upon demand by a law enforcement officer."

Although the statute specifically says "in possession of a concealed weapon or firearm", it is resonable to believe that this would extend to any firearm carried under the provision.

 

[Gray Peterson]

I can answer that one. SB 234 would authorize CWFL holders to carry openly at their option. §790.06 (1) states, "The licensee must carry the license, together with valid identification, at all times in which the licensee is in actual possession of a concealed weapon or firearm and must display both the license and proper identification upon demand by a law enforcement officer."

Although the statute specifically says "in possession of a concealed weapon or firearm", it is resonable to believe that this would extend to any firearm carried under the provision.

No, it wouldn't.

Florida v. J.L.

Delaware v. Prouse

 

[Rich7553]

No, it wouldn't.

Florida v. J.L.

Delaware v. Prouse

I don't know Gray. If SB 234 passes as written, open carry would only be authorized to CWFL holders. Why would a LEO be prohibited from asking to see both your CWFL and ID? By open carrying, you are affirming you have a license to do so, and statute allows the LEO to confirm that.

 

[coolfrmn]

Two thumbs up for Florida!!! Lots of hard work starting to bare fruit. Hopefully the momentum will travel up to GA, SC.