Law abider
Regular Member
I suppose every step we take, or whatever we do in public has a legal definition like in the military. Hmmm How would one safely carry? in a long holster and then slung over the shoulders?
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NOT the way to Open Carry....
- Thread starter Interceptor_Knight
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I suppose every step we take, or whatever we do in public has a legal definition like in the military. Hmmm How would one safely carry? in a long holster and then slung over the shoulders?
Interceptor_Knight
Regular Member
He was carrying relatively "safely". He did not have his finger in the trigger guard and it was carried on a sturdy sling which held it in place on his body. My premise is that he "should" have chosen a sling which would give him much more positive control, would have better retention and is more secure on his body. There are a plethora of single, dual and 3 point slings which fit this purpose. A cheap 2 point just slung sideways on your back does not. Even a 2 point "Service Rifle" type sling would have been better and allowed him to carry it in a vertical position (muzzle up or down) high on his back over a shoulder.
NoTolerance
Regular Member
It's the *only* gun the gentleman owns. Please provide him with some latitude, as his options are to carry the BFG or nothing at all.
Interceptor_Knight
Regular Member
Perhaps the AR carrier could loan him a different one next time :dude: He could have OCd the handgun while the other gentleman carried the AR.
Law abider
Regular Member
I understand. You don't want it to swing from side to side wildly so as to have the muzzle briefly pointing at someone on either swing. Agreed.
marshaul
Campaign Veteran
Was the safety engaged? What about other things snagging the trigger? I maintain it's unsafe.
Agreed. I hope it goes without saying that I'm not defending the cops. I operate under the default assumption that they're wrong (how they treat us, fair is fair).
marshaul
Campaign Veteran
Just don't let it POINT at people's faces as a matter of course.
That's my beef with this guy. He's not safe. I stand by my assessment.
"It's OK that he had his SUV's tires up against that guy's head with the engine running, he had the parking brake on!"
(Joke analogy, don't take it too seriously please.)
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WalkingWolf
Regular Member
Has there been a problem with AR's firing without any manipulation of the safety or trigger? If so they are unsafe and should be recalled.
I wonder how many folks sweep their neighbors when cleaning or storing guns. That handgun in the drawer is most certainly sweeping someone. My understanding of sweeping is the firearm IN THE HANDS. Honestly how do you guys ever manage to go to a guns show or a gun shop with all those guns sweeping.
Come on guys use some common sense!
I wonder how many folks sweep their neighbors when cleaning or storing guns. That handgun in the drawer is most certainly sweeping someone. My understanding of sweeping is the firearm IN THE HANDS. Honestly how do you guys ever manage to go to a guns show or a gun shop with all those guns sweeping.
Come on guys use some common sense!
OC for ME
Regular Member
I have read your words and unreasonable is not one of the attributes I would......uh......attribute, to you.
Interceptor_Knight
Regular Member
According to threads on various message boards, they soil themselves and run away screaming with their hands in the air after threatening physical harm to the person looking at the firearm... :lol:
Law abider
Regular Member
Need to look at the video to see if you can see if the safety lock was on safety. I heard that AR15 will fire by themselves when they rock to and fro when walking or when one makes erratic movements.
Law abider
Regular Member
No Interceptor, they wear Depends to prevent soiling themselves.
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
Could YOU see the safety was not on? Even with that the gun will not fire unless the trigger is pulled.
Do you pi$$ your pants when a police car drives by with a loaded AR in the trunk? Do you know if the safety is on?
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OC for ME
Regular Member
My immediate thought was that you were referring to the French.
Interceptor_Knight
Regular Member
That urban legend is subject matter for another thread... It is only silly nationalistic propaganda that perpetuates that little fib...My immediate thought was that you were referring to the French.
Law abider
Regular Member
Need a magnifying glass! Couldn't see if safety was on. Getting old. I'll be ok with OC AR15 in Prescott.
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
Yea I can't see if the safety is on a holstered 1911 cocked and locked either. And a bullet that ricochets off the floor after flattening out is dangerous. But then even if the safety is off I know the gun is not going to pull it's own trigger. So I don't make a fool of myself by soiling myself over others method of carry.
Firearms Iinstuctor
Regular Member
Some people just can't see the sarcasm in this statement.
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
That is why the site has a sarcasm smiley, or typing sarcasm at the end of the post(sarcasm)
Otherwise without the body language the post appears as it is posted, which can sound really foolish.
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marshaul
Campaign Veteran
Guns in gun shows are *supposed* to be unloaded. I still prefer not to be swept, TBH.
A gun in a draw has the trigger protected... by the drawer. A gun strapped to your back does not.
Also, if my gun discharges, I am less likely to hit someone I "swept" from within my house (angular size and all) than someone I walked by on the street.
I maintain this is unsafe. It is trivial to carry slung such that the gun is always pointed in a safe direction.
Again, firearm safety rules are redundant for a good reason. The mode of carry in question brings it down to merely one safety rule followed (finger off the trigger), with no redundancy. It's pointed at people, it's loaded, and the trigger is exposed.
Unsafe.