Also, can we please put the "I OC so I'll never ever get attacked because it's never happened" thought to bed.
Richmond man killed while OCing. http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470871
You talk about other guys "putting info out that may get guys hurt", yet your basically advocating that you don't even need to know how to DEFENSIVELY shoot a gun (completely different then just putting holes in a paper) and that it shouldn't even be DISCUSSED on this forum. OCing IS a deterrent, not doubt about it. It DOES NOT make you bullet proof.
Tyler, a customer at the BP station, was killed about 8:15 p.m. Friday, Nov. 25, inside the store. According to court papers, Smith and Hamiel arrived at the BP together on a single scooter and followed Tyler into the store.
Tyler, 48, had a concealed-carry permit, but his handgun was plainly visible that night in his holster, Johnson said.
"The suspects walk in and one immediately reached for Mr. Tyler's gun," Johnson said. Tyler did not draw his weapon.
According to court papers, Smith took Tyler's gun during a struggle and shot Tyler in the chest after the victim chased Smith inside the store. Authorities said they could not confirm that Tyler was killed with his own gun until they get the results of forensics testing. They also are awaiting test results to show whether the gun used to kill Tyler was the one used to shoot Cosby.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/t...cle_970e24e7-dd5d-57e7-8fb8-a64a0a2b26ba.html
Mr. Tyler who was OCing for the first time, had a non active retension holster, got into a shoving match with a teenager known to him, gun fell out of the holster when Mr. Tyler went to the floor. Teen grabbed the gun and ran towards the coolers - Mr Tyler chased him and got shot for his effort.
He was not targeted for his gun. It was not snatched from his holster or his hand.
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...rently-failed-Richmonder&highlight=tyler+shot
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...as-gun-taken-and-is-shot&highlight=tyler+shot