fight4your_rights
Regular Member
Appears that Everett PD bulletin is in error regarding suppressors aka silencer. Citizens may own and possess them, they just can't "use" them. Sorry for the hijack, carry on.
Very suspicious this is......
around 430pm today i stopped at a gas station to fuel up on my way to my parents and on my way out of the parking lot two police cars pull up with their lights on. it went down pretty much like this:
officer: sir, do you have a firearm?
me: yes i am open carrying a sidearm.
officer: do you have a CPL?
me: yes, but i dont need one.
officer: can i see your ID?
me: why, have i done something wrong?
officer: i am just making sure you can legally have that pistol.
(i hand him my ID and he goes back to his car for about 5 minutes)
officer: you really shouldnt open carry, it scares people.
me: its my legal right to open carry and you aren't supposed to be pulling me over for it.
officer: you would want me to check out strange people carrying guns in your neighborhood, right?
me: nope, as long as they aren't doing any thing illegal they should be left alone.
officer: ....allright, have a nice day sir.
while nothing bad happened the overall experiance was unejoyable and a waste of time, since my folks were making dinner for me and i was running late. i will see what i can do to get in touch with the police chief and talk with him about this.
-matt
Wait! I really want to know the answer to this. Did you see what I posted above, about the driving/license RCW? As it reads there, if you are "operating" a motor vehicle, you are required to show ID when asked of you. The OP can argue all day long with the cop about OC, etc, but wasn't he required to show ID when asked (because he was in a car)?you dont need a CPL to open carry or to carry in the car if its unloaded..
if stoped for just open carry,, you dont need a CPL.
you dont need ID
you just need to shut the fjck up.
open carry is not RAS of a crime.
there is no gun exception to the 4th amendment.
The cops cant just stop you to check if you are allowed to excerize your
constitutional rights.
your rights cant stand up for themselves, we each must do that for them.....
That is correct ONLY if your definition of "stowed" is... in a holster, on the seat next to you, in a bag, on the floor, in the glove compartment, on the dash, or ANYWHERE ELSE in the car....That, in addition to the need for a CPL in your car... if you are carrying and it is loaded. To avoid the CPL issue you need to have your gun stowed and unloaded...
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However, the officer had no way to know if the OCer was carrying unloaded (Israeli style) and there is no mention of a check of the firearm.
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If by Israeli style you mean a semi-auto with a loaded magazine inserted but an empty chamber, then "Israeli style" equals loaded according to the RCW, specifically, 9.41.010(10). I can't say it often enough - - to be unloaded in Washington, unless it is a muzzleloader it has to be EMPTY.
you dont need a CPL to open carry or to carry in the car if its unloaded..
if stoped for just open carry,, you dont need a CPL.
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Correct, I didn't do a well enough job of completing my thought in the above post.
What I meant was if someone else saw the OP with the firearm and the OP was carrying he could of removed the magazine from the firearm while driving and fueling the car. There is no mention if the officer saw anything regarding the firearm.
Huh? To put it another way: "If the stop was illegal, then the request for ID is legal"....The request for ID can not be illegal if the stop was illegal in the first place.
Well, I'm just askin', 'cause you first said this:as for why i am not master of all that is police officers and didnt recognize whether they were sheriffs or local police, I WAS IN A HURRY and did not care at the time.
-matt
around 430pm today i stopped at a gas station to fuel up on my way to my parents and on my way out of the parking lot two police cars pull up with their lights on.