OrangeIsTrouble
Regular Member
So how do we get to the point of not having to carry around paperwork and spoiling a relaxing walk?
So I informed the officers that they had violated my civil rights, freedom of movement. I presented them a copy of their departments trainning memo, all two pages, and i told them they were in violation of RCW 9A 80 010. Gross misdermenor when police deprive citizen of civil rights. I explained that the two conditions to arrest me, one, gun in hand, two , making threats had not been met. Another officer arrived, I guess their supervisor, I showed him the paper work also. They tried to use SMC 18.12 no guns in park against me, but I informed them that it had been overtuned in King County Superior Court. They called there Lt. Then they locked my guns in my car across the street, and told me for officer safety to retrieve them after they leave. I did and went for a walk around Greenlake with my wife. My wife said the lady that called was embarressed when the police spoke with her when wrapping things up. An incident # was generated and it is 11-274592. The officers involved were Shilipeyar #5183, Kamalu #5990, and Hargraves #2974. The youngest officer was Kamalu, who by the way was the officer that responded to the shooting at Folklife a couple of years ago, so I was told by the supervisor.
On a seperate note, not more than 24 hours earlier I was at the South West Precincts picnic, walked all over the place, talked to officers and Chief Diez.
I just want to thank all the members of Washington Open Carry for teaching me what to do in situration like this. Thank you very much.
That would teach em.With SPD's history of assaulting citizens, can we get the police officers disarmed under the guise of "Citizen Safety"?
That would teach em.
No, it would not.
Those unwilling to learn cannot be taught.
This really sucks. I thought we were past this this far north.
State v.Casad:Do you have a reference for this? I have heard it before but would like to read it for myself and in turn when needed reference it as well.
In any case they have been hiring from lots of ANTIgun states - NY, NJ, HI, CA
I had just completed a walk around Greenlake and was waiting for my wife to arrive, when I saw a lady on the phone, and I thought she was calling police. Sure enough 5 minutes later 2 Seattle Police cars show up and the lady runs over to talk to them and points in my direction. The officers park there cars and the fat one tries to make a tatical approach, aka trying to sneak up, but he was wider then the tree he was trying to hide behind. So he peaks around the tree to see me and I wave at him, don't you hate it when you lose the element of surprise. So he orders me to put my hands on top of my head and dont move. His partner is at my 2 o'clock has his gun out and at the low ready. I put my hands on my head and wait for him to take my gun. He cant get my gun out of my level 3 holster so he ends up taking my belt half way off. They ask me if I have any other weapons on me, I say yes and tell them I have a second gun in my front pocket, they remove that off me.
Now they have all my guns and they put their guns away and now the conversation begins. Them, what are you doing here with a gun? Me, what cad supported probable cause do you have to stop me? More to follow....
In 2008, the Seattle Police Department put up a billboard in New York boosting the ranks of Seattle's police force in hopes of attracting new recruits.
http://www.komonews.com/news/problemsolvers/91885594.html
Feb 2008
Last month, the department made 33 hires and he expects 14 more to accept in the next week.
"We're open to any ideas to bring in any recruits we can but we are not lowering our standards," he said.
The department has started traveling around the country to find candidates, and sent recruiters to Hawaii for a job fair. Caylor said the department also started advertising on Internet job sites, which resulted in more candidates. Entrance examinations are now held monthly instead of quarterly.
Nickels added money to give new hires $5,000 bonuses; new recruits also receive uniform and equipment vouchers, and moving expenses of $5,000. Department employees who refer successful candidates can earn $1,000 bonuses.
In any case they have been hiring from lots of ANTIgun states - NY, NJ, HI, CA
State v Casad while I like the wording in the unpublished opinion,
Casad’s appellate counsel conceded that she would personally react
with shock, but she emphasized that an individual’s lack of comfort with firearms does not equate
to reasonable alarm. We agree. It is not unlawful for a person to responsibly walk down the
street with a visible firearm, even if this action would shock some people.
It still is an unpublished opinion and from my understanding it may not have any effect on future cases or does it?
Interesting....
Call Lizanne Padula 425.883.3366 or 206.321.3248 (cell)
She is the attorney that spoke at the 2A rally.
Here is the link to the SPD training bulletin
http://forum.nwcdl.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=17
Interesting....
Call Lizanne Padula 425.883.3366 or 206.321.3248 (cell)
She is the attorney that spoke at the 2A rally.
Here is the link to the SPD training bulletin
http://forum.nwcdl.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=17
GGD:
The link does not work for some reason.
Try this one:
http://paduladefense.com/
I'm talking about this link:
http://forum.nwcdl.org/index.php?act...downfile&id=17
I don't need to check Lizanne. Her office is down the street from mine.