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OTThanks for the info, will have to watch that. Very similar to Penn & Teller's B.S. and Mythbusters
vega480 wrote:did you watch the preview? Sounds like you think this is a put on, it's not.Thanks for the info, will have to watch that. Very similar to Penn & Teller's B.S. and Mythbusters
OTABC's Stossel Links Gun Control to Higher Crime
Posted by Brad Wilmouth on May 6, 2007 - 00:51.
On Friday's 20/20, ABC anchor John Stossel discussed the self-defensive benefits of gun ownership, debunking the myth that 'gun control reduces crime,' during 20/20's recurring series 'Myths, Lies & Downright Stupidity,' based on Stossel's book of the same title. Citing the recent Supreme Court ruling overturning Washington, D.C.'s ban on gun ownership, Stossel talked to the pro-gun plaintiff in the case, and pointed out that the murder rate in D.C. increased after the city's gun ban. Stossel: "Since Washington's gun law passed, the murder rate actually increased, even while America's murder rate dropped. It's because guns can also save lives, says Palmer, as one saved his years ago in California." (Transcript follows)
The Penn & Teller episode on guns was removed for some reason, I searched for it last weekend.
HankT wrote:When did the Supreme Court Rule on this issue? I looked on the SC Docket and Opinions and could not find the Opinion.ABC's Stossel Links Gun Control to Higher Crime
Posted by Brad Wilmouth on May 6, 2007 - 00:51.
On Friday's 20/20, ABC anchor John Stossel discussed the self-defensive benefits of gun ownership, debunking the myth that 'gun control reduces crime,' during 20/20's recurring series 'Myths, Lies & Downright Stupidity,' based on Stossel's book of the same title. Citing the recent Supreme Court ruling overturning Washington, D.C.'s ban on gun ownership, Stossel talked to the pro-gun plaintiff in the case, and pointed out that the murder rate in D.C. increased after the city's gun ban. Stossel: "Since Washington's gun law passed, the murder rate actually increased, even while America's murder rate dropped. It's because guns can also save lives, says Palmer, as one saved his years ago in California." (Transcript follows)
OTI have all the P&T B.S. Seasons, but I can't upload it due to copyright issues.
The Gun Control one is rather mediocre compared to some of their other episodes. They do say that guns are for the violent overthrow of a wayword government (which is the only show I know of that says this..), but the whole episode is pretty much thrown together with a hodgepodge of random stuff and alot of cussing. B.S. episodes are definately not what I show people to convince them of issues....
I saw the 20/20 episode and I think Stossel put together a rather compelling segment.
They may be anti gun, but they are libertarian. They support you right to own a gun, even though they may night like them.kurtmax_0 wrote:I have been under the impression that Penn & Teller were for the most part Anti Gun, at least that was what I got from the few interviews I watched of them commenting.I have all the P&T B.S. Seasons, but I can't upload it due to copyright issues.
The Gun Control one is rather mediocre compared to some of their other episodes. They do say that guns are for the violent overthrow of a wayword government (which is the only show I know of that says this..), but the whole episode is pretty much thrown together with a hodgepodge of random stuff and alot of cussing. B.S. episodes are definately not what I show people to convince them of issues....
I saw the 20/20 episode and I think Stossel put together a rather compelling segment.
OTHere's the clip in case you missed it (I missed it as well, and don't know if it's the full segment):
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3132255
To date there has been the origional rulling overturning the DC Gun ban and that rulling has been apealed but it also failed, now I am waiting for the Apeal to go to the Supreme Court for their opinion on the 2nd Amendment Position, maybe just maybe there will finally be a Supreme Court rulling that plainly says that the 2nd Amendment does in fact as we all know it does Afirm that The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms is in fact an individual Right.Kelly J wrote:HankT wrote:When did the Supreme Court Rule on this issue? I looked on the SC Docket and Opinions and could not find the Opinion.ABC's Stossel Links Gun Control to Higher Crime
Posted by Brad Wilmouth on May 6, 2007 - 00:51.
On Friday's 20/20, ABC anchor John Stossel discussed the self-defensive benefits of gun ownership, debunking the myth that 'gun control reduces crime,' during 20/20's recurring series 'Myths, Lies & Downright Stupidity,' based on Stossel's book of the same title. Citing the recent Supreme Court ruling overturning Washington, D.C.'s ban on gun ownership, Stossel talked to the pro-gun plaintiff in the case, and pointed out that the murder rate in D.C. increased after the city's gun ban. Stossel: "Since Washington's gun law passed, the murder rate actually increased, even while America's murder rate dropped. It's because guns can also save lives, says Palmer, as one saved his years ago in California." (Transcript follows)
The case is Parker v. DC; it was ruled on by a 3 judge panel of the DC Court of Appeals. The city is appealing to the full court of appeals, and no matter what the decision there it will likely be appealed to the Supreme Court.
If the Supreme Court decides to hear it and rules in favor of an individual rights reading of the 2nd amendment, it could have grave repercussions for gun control advocates nationwide.