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Alabama open carrier featured on CBS News 42 video!
- Thread starter Hollowpoint38
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eye95
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Really? Alabama law treats (regarding gun law) private schools that receive some public funds differently than private schools that do not?
Really? Alabama law treats (regarding gun law) private schools that receive some public funds differently than private schools that do not?
Mike
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Grapeshot wrote:
I do not understand why this myth keeps popping up.
Grapeshot wrote:
huh? Receiving public funds does not make a private university a governmental actor or agent subject to constitutional constraints.
I do not understand why this myth keeps popping up.
eye95
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The myth is probably due to the fact that some federal funds come with strings. But, these strings are spelled out in the law. Barring such a law, private institutions that receive federal bucks still act as private institutions.
I taught at a private school that accepted federal funds. There were restrictions. None of them involved our gun policy.
The myth is probably due to the fact that some federal funds come with strings. But, these strings are spelled out in the law. Barring such a law, private institutions that receive federal bucks still act as private institutions.
I taught at a private school that accepted federal funds. There were restrictions. None of them involved our gun policy.
Neo
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I don't know how I missed this story until today. Way to go, Hollowpoint38! Keep up the good work.
I don't know how I missed this story until today. Way to go, Hollowpoint38! Keep up the good work.
dougwg
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Hollowpoint38 wrote:
A chill pill, please take one.
I simply asked a question. then tried to clarify it and asked again.
Now I'll ask again:
DOES AL HAVE A PERMIT TO CARRY A CONCEALED WEAPON?
Clear enough for ya...dude?
Hollowpoint38 wrote:
A chill pill, please take one.
I simply asked a question. then tried to clarify it and asked again.
Now I'll ask again:
DOES AL HAVE A PERMIT TO CARRY A CONCEALED WEAPON?
Clear enough for ya...dude?
Hollowpoint38
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Thank you! I don't know if you are near the Birmingham area, but be sure to drop by the blood drive on April 10. I'm still in negotiations with 2 separate stores about the location, but I think by Tuesday I should have a solid location!
Be sure to tell everyone you know to help come out and support the community!
Open carry is optional! Thanks everyone!
-Tim (Hollowpoint38)
Thank you! I don't know if you are near the Birmingham area, but be sure to drop by the blood drive on April 10. I'm still in negotiations with 2 separate stores about the location, but I think by Tuesday I should have a solid location!
Be sure to tell everyone you know to help come out and support the community!
Open carry is optional! Thanks everyone!
-Tim (Hollowpoint38)
Hollowpoint38
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I'm through with this discussion, dougwg. I do not know if he does or not. My question to YOU is, why are you asking and why does it matter?
Do you ask every person you see with a pistol if they have a permit?
I'm through with this discussion, dougwg. I do not know if he does or not. My question to YOU is, why are you asking and why does it matter?
Do you ask every person you see with a pistol if they have a permit?
fox2102
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I normally hate needles so i dont like blood drives but in the effort to support open carry i may have to face my fear and donate blood =]
I normally hate needles so i dont like blood drives but in the effort to support open carry i may have to face my fear and donate blood =]
Hollowpoint38
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You're not the only one with a fear of needles. I hate needles, but I think it's important to have these types of events in order to show the government, the people have rights and we plan on keeping them. I believe this may help show the community that open carriers are just every day normal people, but we like to exercise our rights.
I hope to see your there!
You're not the only one with a fear of needles. I hate needles, but I think it's important to have these types of events in order to show the government, the people have rights and we plan on keeping them. I believe this may help show the community that open carriers are just every day normal people, but we like to exercise our rights.
I hope to see your there!
rpyne
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Hollowpoint38 wrote:
Hollowpoint38 wrote:
How about because the most horrific mass shootings on record have happened in schools?
Hollowpoint38
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ok. Mass shootings. How are you going to proove that's not what you had planned? How many people do you think actually take a weapon into schools?
Anybody ever thought about this?
Everyone keeps saying is legal to carry in a school. If that is that case, how do they keep expelling children for bringing, keychain guns? Little guns made of solid plastic that are only an inch in size. How is carrying a real pistol going to be ok?
ok. Mass shootings. How are you going to proove that's not what you had planned? How many people do you think actually take a weapon into schools?
Anybody ever thought about this?
Everyone keeps saying is legal to carry in a school. If that is that case, how do they keep expelling children for bringing, keychain guns? Little guns made of solid plastic that are only an inch in size. How is carrying a real pistol going to be ok?
eye95
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There are at least two things working against the kids.
First, almost all of the students are under age 18, making it illegal under federal law to carry.
Second, regardless of the law, it is reasonable for schools to have a policy against student possession of a gun and to set the penalty at suspension or expulsion.
There are at least two things working against the kids.
First, almost all of the students are under age 18, making it illegal under federal law to carry.
Second, regardless of the law, it is reasonable for schools to have a policy against student possession of a gun and to set the penalty at suspension or expulsion.
Hollowpoint38
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I understand that, but I am talking about miniature toys. Something that isn't a gun, but looks like one, and is smaller than a bottle top of a coke.
If you want to stroll into a school and test your luck, go ahead, let me know how it goes.
I understand that, but I am talking about miniature toys. Something that isn't a gun, but looks like one, and is smaller than a bottle top of a coke.
If you want to stroll into a school and test your luck, go ahead, let me know how it goes.
eye95
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They can have a policy against gun-lookalikes, no matter how silly the policy is. Foolish policies should be changed, but that would be up to the board and the voters in the school district.
Oh, and as I have said before, I don't advocate carrying in a school. I am merely saying that, under Alabama law, it is legal. If you are not a student or a teacher, there is little a school can legally do. That is not to say that they can exercise no power in the situation. I am sure they can and do not want to gain first-hand knowledge.
They can have a policy against gun-lookalikes, no matter how silly the policy is. Foolish policies should be changed, but that would be up to the board and the voters in the school district.
Oh, and as I have said before, I don't advocate carrying in a school. I am merely saying that, under Alabama law, it is legal. If you are not a student or a teacher, there is little a school can legally do. That is not to say that they can exercise no power in the situation. I am sure they can and do not want to gain first-hand knowledge.
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If a University recieves Public Tax Dollars form Alabama for support, then, it would fall under both Alabama Codes 1975 11-45-1.1 and 11-80-11.
Yes... Concealed Carry of a Pistol is Legal in Alabama..., if you have a Valid Pistol Permit.
If a University recieves Public Tax Dollars form Alabama for support, then, it would fall under both Alabama Codes 1975 11-45-1.1 and 11-80-11.
Yes... Concealed Carry of a Pistol is Legal in Alabama..., if you have a Valid Pistol Permit.
eye95
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I don't see how either of those code sections would apply to a private university receiving public funds. Those code sections apply to counties and municipal corporations (cities and towns).
I don't see how either of those code sections would apply to a private university receiving public funds. Those code sections apply to counties and municipal corporations (cities and towns).
Hollowpoint38
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eye95
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I liked the sign about the neighbors being anti-gun!
I liked the sign about the neighbors being anti-gun!