ixtow
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What about homeschooling? For/against? Gonna make it easier to do?
What about homeschooling? For/against? Gonna make it easier to do?
Good question. I am about public education(hence supporting public jobs and employees). For me public education helps a child to learn valuable social skills needed to survive in the real world. While I dont have any problems with a home schooled child, I feel a home schooled child doesn't get the interaction needed to be more socialized.
If your going to home school a child, I feel you need to be well educated your self, much like a Teacher, in order to best serve your child's needs.
From what I've read, including this issue, you look like you cater to the interests of the Average Florida Voter, but not me...
I don't think the State should be involved in the education process at all. The only reason that exposure to public school seems like a requirement, is that public education includes teaching hatred of anyone who stands out.
. Fire them and make them get a real job, they're leaches.
From what I've read, including this issue, you look like you cater to the interests of the Average Florida Voter, but not me...
I don't think the State should be involved in the education process at all. The only reason that exposure to public school seems like a requirement, is that public education includes teaching hatred of anyone who stands out.
It's much like political faction alignment. Both major parties include at their roots hate-speech against 'the other guy' to prevent the Voters from realizing that they all still bleed red... Divide and conquer.
I have my son in Public School for the very reason you stated; the social experience. There sure isn't any educating going on. That's still up to me regardless... I know I could do a better job if he weren't being shipped off to be brainwashed with Institutionalist Statism for the better part of the day... any time I start in with Gentoo Linux or studying math/science on my own for a project I have, he is very interested and entirely blank...
When I was his age I was writing Polymorphic code by hand in Assembly. But I went to Private School where I was encouraged to think and explore.
I also understand that Public Jobs are the definition of Big Government. The more of those we wipe out, the better. The Government employs WAY too many people to do the many things it has no business doing. Those of us with real jobs cannot afford to keep paying for them. The ratio is roughly 4:6, or 4 out of 10 jobs is Government. Government jobs pay more, and have way better benefits. So cash-wise, it's about 6 out of 10 dollars. We cannot afford this. We should be keeping these benefits for ourselves, we are the ones earning them! How is it at all Right, Sane, or American that I bust my ass to pay for benefits of others that I don't get for myself? I'm not talking about Welfare, I'm talking about Health Benefits and Pensions for Government Employees who do nothing but attack me and take my money. 1 + 1 != 7. Real people with Real jobs can not afford all this Fluff. We can't carry the burden of this bloated, lazy elitism. There just aren't enough of us to pay for all this and still get by ourselves. Fire them and make them get a real job, they're leaches.
But Ixtow, don't you know the state makes the grass green and the sun come up in the morning? If it weren't for government schools, no one would know how to read or write or add. Without tax (theft) funded education, we would not have a well educated freedom loving electorate as we do now. Without government schools, could there have been a Gauss, or a Fermat? An Euler, or a Liebniz, or a Newton?....Oh wait...
See where I am going with this. Every one takes alot of things for granted. If you take offense well I can't help that. I can't make every one happy. :question:
It's a fallacy to say that all these services can't be provided by the market. Government provides essential services, but that doesn't mean that only the coercive power of the state can provide them. Taxation is theft, and there is no way around that fact. You can't opt out of the state. Obviously, we're now accustomed to things being done a certain way (the slave way) and we won't go from tyranny to freedom overnight, but I want people in government who will let us move in that direction.
As I said before in my video, I will fight for Public employees and public jobs, constitutional rights, and small businesses. Every one has choice. I myself hate taxes as well. I welcome your opinions in how you can provide a structure similar to the military with all the same capabilities. Mind you the employees must be able to live on the wages yet not hurt the tax payers and minimum wage is not livable. Non of what I have said is rhetorical or incorrect reasoning.
I really don't have the answers. Just explaining my moral conviction that no purpose of government justifies depriving someone of their life liberty or property until they actually hurt someone else. Sometimes it's not always clear when somebody else is violated, but most of the time it is. Mere nonpayment of taxes, smoking crack, open carry of weapons, etc (you fill in the blank) should not be within the state's purview. More government jobs, or more benefits for existing government jobs, means more taxes. Taxation is organized theft, and I think theft is morally wrong.
Ixtow said:Government Employees who do nothing but attack me and take my money.
crashnjax said:Thats a very negative way of thinking right there.
crashnjax said:Those government employees are also tax payers.
crashnjax said:They also work their butts off as you say.
crashnjax said:Honestly have you ever worked as a correctional officer, or a school teacher, state hospital employee? I'll await your answer on that, but to continue.
As far as education goes, I will agree that government should not influence the teachings. History for example is always written by the winner of the war. I left High school and all of my Teacher at Ed white had become well non caring. Maybe 1 or 2 of my teachers care about teaching me. Yes your right hatred is taught, but you the parents can and should stop it.
Yes Gov. Jobs have better benefits. Just remember those employees are tax payers also.
JSee where I am going with this. Every one takes alot of things for granted. If you take offense well I can't help that. I can't make every one happy. :question:
You are right in some ways yet are wrong in others. In order to change, people have to get involved. I want to do what the voters tell me to do, which I feel makes me very unique.
Have you ever thought why "public job's" are defined as such? Why are some "private jobs" dealing with the public? I think these definition's is very contradictory to all. See to me a "job that deals with the public" is a job like state troopers, mcdonalds, correction, hospitals, business that sell to the public like tattoo shops, at least that makes sense to me. "Private jobs" are jobs like call centers that dont see the public at all but only talk to them on the phone. I want to know what your common sense definition is on this subject. I dont want text book answers neither.
So, by avoiding textbook answer you admit how useless textbooks are? That there is a great gulf between a textbook answer and one which is based on common-sense? Why are they different? Why is one in School and the other, not.
Today, Taxes are levied with little to no representation or approval from the Taxed, then spent willy-nilly.
The answer (which required definition from above): I define it by the source of the paycheck. It is a public job if the paycheck comes from Tax Money. It is paid for by the general public against their will and without their say. It is no different from the Royalty and the Peasants. The funds are forcibly extracted from the Public to pay for the waste and extravagance of the Politicians and their underlings. They perform a 'job;' that of assuring further extraction of funds from the Public.
Build prisons to create jobs. Create prisoners to fill those jails by converting Rights and Freedoms into Crimes through perpetual lawmaking. Raise Taxes to pay for it... Lather, Rinse, Repeat. This is but one example.
The pressures thrust upon those who try to stay out of jail and survive while supporting that burden are the answer to "Why is America so violent?" It isn't the guns that are the problem, as evidenced by so many studies. No other 1st World Country has a population this gullible and lazy.
We let our Government get away with anything it wants, and we're left trying to support it with Loans we can no longer afford to expand upon. Trying to draw inflation into the present with 50 year Loans, Interest Only Loans... It HAS to break. It can't result in anything but failure. We wouldn't be doing it if we didn't have to carry the burden of all this Royalty that spends the money on nothing but new and creative excuses to take more and more of our money from us.
1 + 1 != 7
Public Jobs are Jobs paid for with Tax Money. No matter what function that job serves, the nature of Government shows that money more useful in the hands of those it was taken from.
There are just certain things that government does well, and they shouldn't be tinkered with under the guise of privatization because they will simply do as follows:
Private = 1 + 1 = 107!! It's a no-brainer.
Privatization in this context isn't really privatization. The market is not deciding on how resources should be allocated when it comes to government contracts; rather, the state is giving a guaranteed monopoly to those who offered the biggest bribes. The prison population should be reduced by at least 80%. A sane justice system, one that focused on restitution for victims (people who make a claim against another person) and ignored victimless crimes (the office of district attorney shouldn't exist) would require a small fraction of the jobs the current panopticon demands.
Amen, brother, but that would require an entirely different mentality than the one we currently possess and the one that we're heading toward with the Governor. We are going to have "warehousing" of the prisoners along with programs that nominally, but not really, reduce recidivism. And we'll be paying extra although we're paying the private company to pay security guards, not trained officers.
I agree with you on the 80% mark: as a criminal defense attorney and I've seen that doing nothing and making nothing of themselves while they're inside actually makes them worse. I've also seen someone who spent 11 years and got a Bachelor's in Mathematics from a better university than mine.
80%: It's a generation wasted because some politician (or judge, or ASA) wanted to appear tough on crime.
The deal is though, Ixtow, and I do see your point regarding public waste, that exchanging public waste for private waste would be more like 1 + 1 = 107!!
See, the government establishment is attempting to convince us that in order to do things right we have to outsource them to the private sector because the public sector cannot do its job correctly. Want a better prison system? Give a contract to Wackenhut to build and run a prison for only three times the price. The same with jails.
Now what do we have? We have prisons with air-conditioning and cushy mattresses (look at South Bay CI and Moorehaven, etc., look them up), where prisoners must be treated as "guests." The bonds are higher in private jails because there's a profit to be made; the prisoners stay longer in private prisons for the same reason. DR's are more likely private prisons than regular state prisons because of the same matter: the profit motive.
Private schools, same thing.
There are just certain things that government does well, and they shouldn't be tinkered with under the guise of privatization because they will simply do as follows:
1. Cost MORE for the taxpayer because now there's a profit motive behind the issue
2. Make services worse by having security guards (instead of trained officers) run the show
3. Have all the "selected" building, schooling, security guard, and security companies become bigger thanks to their "tight connections" with whomever they know in Tallahassee.
4. When everything fails to work, blame the parent, and then start on privatized counseling and parent reform. They'll end one trench to open the next one.
Public = 1 + 1 != 7 (yeah, we know they ain't the best)
Private = 1 + 1 = 107!! It's a no-brainer.