Bellingham police draw down on Open Carrier

[sudden valley gunner]

How so?

Do you see anything "official" on that cut and paste document? And read how they word it, it is manure.

 

[MSG Laigaie]

SVGs settlement with the BPD required them to
"The City of Bellingham police department will develop and issue a training bulletin substantially similar to those issued by various other agencies around the state on the topic of open carry of a firearm in Washington State. Such training bulletin will comport with constitutional law, state law, police safety, and police best practices, and will be issued within three (3) weeks of this agreement being fully signed."

I requested a copy of said document from the Chief of police and received this. It was published on 30 NOV 10, even tho it is not marked as such. It was approved by the city atty and dep chief david dole, even tho it is not marked as such. As of 10 Jan 12, no training has been conducted in reference to this "training bulletin". Bellingham police department policy(and I quote from CoP T Ramsey) "Does not require officers to read the training bulletins."

 

[gogodawgs]

Did you read it?!?

I did. Having several people express an opinion of a document and not cite it and not back it up by law ....now that is manure. :shocker:

Good job quoting, citing and giving readers a chance to see more than your opinion.

 

[Metalhead47]

". Bellingham police department policy(and I quote from CoP T Ramsey) "Does not require officers to read the training bulletins."

Now this right here is a great big crock o brown stinky stuff. Anyone else here have a job where you're not required to read TRAINING BULLETINS?? I sure don't.



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[Grapeshot]

Re training bulletins - Instructions should indicate: Read and conform with the letter and intent.

 

[MSG Laigaie]

update

The BPD complaint form, with details of the incident were delivered.
One copy to BPD rec'd 0932 - 14FEB12
One copy to Mayors office rec'd 0912 - 15FEB12

 

[sudden valley gunner]

A Valentine's Day present! Was it buried in a dozen roses?!?

They think their crap smells like roses does that count?

 

[MSG Laigaie]

operation Veritas Aequitas

 

[MSG Laigaie]

Update...update

BPD contacted me by telephone today. I now have an appointment with LT Vandertyacht, wednesday the 29th. He offered to meet at a neutral location (don't laugh, it's a donut shop)

Well I guess it will really start when we sit down and start talking about it.

 

[Metalhead47]

BPD contacted me by telephone today. I now have an appointment with LT Vandertyacht, wednesday the 29th. He offered to meet at a neutral location (don't laugh, it's a donut shop)

Well I guess it will really start when we sit down and start talking about it.

You're meeting a cop in a donut shop? That's either a setup or the makings of a really bad joke. Exercise extreme caution. Trust no one.

 

[protias]

BPD contacted me by telephone today. I now have an appointment with LT Vandertyacht, wednesday the 29th. He offered to meet at a neutral location (don't laugh, it's a donut shop)

Well I guess it will really start when we sit down and start talking about it.

How many plain dress unis will be there?

 

[MSG Laigaie]

Sposed to be just us folks. I plan on taking SVG with me

 

[slapmonkay]

Sposed to be just us folks. I plan on taking SVG with me

And a couple of discrete recording devices I hope...

Let us know how it goes.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Sposed to be just us folks. I plan on taking SVG with me

I'll be there John.

 

[tony d tiger]

none of my business, but you should've counter-offered to meet in a Starbucks.
That's my two cents, at least...

Good luck!

 

[40S&W]

Good, have a productive conversation but insist that this incident be on the officers record.

 

[MSG Laigaie]

none of my business, but you should've counter-offered to meet in a Starbucks.
That's my two cents, at least...

Good luck!

I offered to meet at the BPD, or Starbucks, the Lt wanted to meet at the donut shop. The humor of it to too hard to resist.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Good, have a productive conversation but insist that this incident be on the officers record.

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If it goes like it did last time they will make excuses and rationalizations for the officers illegal and dangerous behavior, have all those shot down by logic and reason. They will try to get personal info fruitlessly from us and then the case will proceed with lawyers.

 

[BigDave]

I offered to meet at the BPD, or Starbucks, the Lt wanted to meet at the donut shop. The humor of it to too hard to resist.

The idea the Lt did not want to meet at BPD is odd and makes one wonder if this is just an attempt to sweep it under the rug sort of speak, second have you or others opened carried at this donut shop where you are meeting? Never know they may not be open carry friendly? which would set the mood to less then favorable for you anyways.

 

[amlevin]

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If it goes like it did last time they will make excuses and rationalizations for the officers illegal and dangerous behavior, have all those shot down by logic and reason. They will try to get personal info fruitlessly from us and then the case will proceed with lawyers.

Remind the Lt. that the first time can be a mistake. The second time, especially after having settled on a complaint for the same type of actions, can be construed as a pattern.