Dave_pro2a
Regular Member
And in fact THIS generation of officers might.
Subsequent generations... not so much.
It's a long game. Education + indoctrination.
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Civil Disobediance
- Thread starter Bill45
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And in fact THIS generation of officers might.
Subsequent generations... not so much.
It's a long game. Education + indoctrination.
Primus
Regular Member
Why expose it? Just turn yourself in and get it canned completely. Itd be fairpy easy it seems. I'm sure plenty of guys here would chip in cash. Hell I'd even donate a portion of a few classes towards it.
Your comprehension of case law is slightly disturbing. How do you expect to win your case if you turn yourself in? You truly believe that is the most effective course of action? Seriously man, think about it. Real hard, but not too hard.
And don't say you're just trolling or kidding. If you are, please stop spouting off inane BS. No one thinks you're funny. These local guys have tried to subtly suggest you GTFO. I tend to agree. General Discussion or MA OC is where most of your posts belong.
And don't say you're just trolling or kidding. If you are, please stop spouting off inane BS. No one thinks you're funny. These local guys have tried to subtly suggest you GTFO. I tend to agree. General Discussion or MA OC is where most of your posts belong.
Primus
Regular Member
Actually refer to where I said he could citizens arrest and bring a friend in then request charges. Read before you post....
And why wouldn't you be able to win a case if you did turn yourself in?
And when you get your shiny moderator badge you and anyone else can dictate what forum or sub forum I post in. Until then you can kick rocks. Or not. I'm ok with either option. Just a waste of your time.
Don't lose sight this started as me asking a legit question and devolved into the usual stupidity because guys are too inept (that's me being subtle) to see passed their biases.
Primus
Regular Member
Also its funny an out of stater (you) is telling another out of stater (me) to leave. Especially since I'm actually trying to discuss the topic and OP. All you've done is step in to address me, which certainly isn't in your job description and is off-topic further wrecking the thread and valid ideas that were put forth.
See the irony yet? If not I'll try to slow down for you.. Maybe some stick figures?
Gentlemen. Please stay on topic and away from personality issues.
I found the nerve I was trying to tickle! No problem here!
Dave_pro2a
Regular Member
I'm quoting his avatar. He's "1*"
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Primus
Regular Member
You do realize it means 1 Astrix. Or 1 a** to risk. Meaning it refers to my a**. Possessive. To try and twist that into call me an a** sounds kinda stupid brother... I hope you can do better then that... But maybe not.
P.s. if you wish to do better please take it to PM. I don't mind making you cry there but Grape has already asked nicely to knock this crap off.
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twoskinsonemanns
Regular Member
I admit the risk to officers is real. It's hard not to remember the risks officers such as Corporal Bryon K. Dickson II and Reinhard Heydrich took for the protection of their beliefs. God bless you each and every one.
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Difdi
Regular Member
Yes, absolutely. Why? Because when they have probable cause that a crime has been committed, they're supposed to be making arrests. The problem is that quite a few of them don't actually know what the law says and make arrests without probable cause, which is a crime in itself, that should always result in another arrest --theirs!
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
+1 The violent coercion of the state with practically unlimited funds stolen from others is what leads to tyranny and why most people just go along to get along, we can't afford it.
Dave_pro2a
Regular Member
You mean the fact the state:
Selectively enforces laws to maximize conviction rates
Has an unlimited budget for attorneys and investigators
Has the brutal ability to stack on charges ad nauseum
Then has the twisted soul to uses the power differential to force bad plea bargains onto victims
And everyone knows that is the laws were fairly and uniformly applied, the courts would grind to a halt, the jails would be at 5000% over crowding.
IDK, any of that factors into your reasoning for not wanting to shove your head into the devils mouth, but your decision seems reasonable to me.
Primus
Regular Member
Missing most important part..... Intent.
MSG Laigaie
Campaign Veteran
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/gun-l...ail&utm_term=0_eaeaa815c4-652356a54c-65817873
Washington State Patrol spokesman Bob Calkins says troopers have no plans to arrest anyone.
“We’re not sure we can prove that’s a transfer under the law,” Calkins says. “And we really try to be very accommodating of people who come to the state capitol to express political opinions, engage in free speech.”
However, Calkins says the state patrol is asking demonstrators to practice “good firearm safety practices” by handling guns safely and not pointing them at others or intimidating people.
Calkins says the state patrol doesn’t expect any problems. But troopers will be on hand to monitor the protest and step in if protesters do other things that violate the law or intimidate other capitol visitors.
So........ a "decision" has been made.
Washington State Patrol spokesman Bob Calkins says troopers have no plans to arrest anyone.
“We’re not sure we can prove that’s a transfer under the law,” Calkins says. “And we really try to be very accommodating of people who come to the state capitol to express political opinions, engage in free speech.”
However, Calkins says the state patrol is asking demonstrators to practice “good firearm safety practices” by handling guns safely and not pointing them at others or intimidating people.
Calkins says the state patrol doesn’t expect any problems. But troopers will be on hand to monitor the protest and step in if protesters do other things that violate the law or intimidate other capitol visitors.
So........ a "decision" has been made.
OC for ME
Regular Member
...fuzzy logic (law enforcement)...look it up.
OC for ME
Regular Member
The mere presence of a a bunch of cops where no crime is being committed is intimidating...but, cops with their guns are exempt under the law. In fact, cops are supposed to intimidate, just ask them, that is how modern LE is accomplished these days
Why do you think some cops, acting egregiously unacceptably, yell profanities at law abiding citizens when they unjustly detain, restrain, and confine said law abiding citizens.
Primus
Regular Member
Understandable reasons you won't martyr yourself for the cause. So see if you can get a young friend without the same concerns. I've offered to pitch in and I'm certain others would also pitch in.
And cops clearly know the law, and are charged with interpreting the law. Yeah, I'm gonna trust Calkins on that one (sarcasm).
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