Civil Disobediance

[Primus]

Yeah if you believe that you are definitely missing something.
Do you truly believe, as your example implies, that only folks that are being dangerous get tickets and people that are only slightly violating the law safely get warnings?
Even with your confessed vocation I cannot believe you are that ignorant.

No I don't believe that's what ALWAYS happens. I believe that's A) what SHOULD happen and B) that's better then your theory of everyone should suffer.

 

[Primus]

I relish it. We're getting insight to the twisted, convoluted thought process of your average Law Enforcement Officer.

Lmao I'm twisted and convoluted?

Have you not seen dudes on here proposing citizens arrest for passing off guns? Lol

And I'm the dude saying it shouldnt be enforced. Yea crazy twisted.... Lol

I love you guys. Always good for a chuckle.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

No I don't believe that's what ALWAYS happens. I believe that's A) what SHOULD happen and B) that's better then your theory of everyone should suffer.

Everyone should suffer from unconstitutional laws -- equally.

Everyone should break unconstitutional laws.

LEO should refuse to enforce unconstitutional laws.

Politicians should not pass unconstitutional laws.

Ahh fairy tales for my children.

Reality is we live in a crappy country, run by crappy politicians, who pass crappy laws, enforced by crappy cops and we all have a crappy future. GDP baby, national debt, outsourced manufacturing. We're worse than Charlie Sheen on a crack binge.

One things for sure: Dems or Repubs, we're gonna getting screwed.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

Lmao I'm twisted and convoluted?

Have you not seen dudes on here proposing citizens arrest for passing off guns? Lol

And I'm the dude saying it shouldnt be enforced. Yea crazy twisted.... Lol

I love you guys. Always good for a chuckle.

Yes it's stupid to expect 'the system' to be logically consistent -- and to follow either the law or the Constitution.

I agree.

 

[twoskinsonemanns]

No I don't believe that's what ALWAYS happens. I believe that's A) what SHOULD happen and B) that's better then your theory of everyone should suffer.

Yes everyone should suffer equally as apposed to selective "justice".
Anyway If everyone was inflicted the same we would see massive resistance to the infliction I believe.

My guess is that 95%-100% of commuters purposely or inadvertently violate some driving rule every day they commute. The system lets you pick off a small percentage and milk the public to fund your thuggery.
As long as the odds are in your favor your okay with it. But let's see people getting tickets 2-3 times a month for going 2 miles an hour over the speed limit and I see a system crash.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

Yes everyone should suffer equally as apposed to selective "justice".
Anyway If everyone was inflicted the same we would see massive resistance to the infliction I believe.

My guess is that 95%-100% of commuters purposely or inadvertently violate some driving rule every day they commute. The system lets you pick off a small percentage and milk the public to fund your thuggery.
As long as the odds are in your favor your okay with it. But let's see people getting tickets 2-3 times a month for going 2 miles an hour over the speed limit and I see a system crash.

If actually enforcing the law, causes the legal system to grind to a halt, it's a sign of a systemic failure.

Idiots gonna be all "but that ain't so."

 

[Dave_pro2a]

Yes everyone should suffer equally as apposed to selective "justice".
Anyway If everyone was inflicted the same we would see massive resistance to the infliction I believe.

My guess is that 95%-100% of commuters purposely or inadvertently violate some driving rule every day they commute. The system lets you pick off a small percentage and milk the public to fund your thuggery.
As long as the odds are in your favor your okay with it. But let's see people getting tickets 2-3 times a month for going 2 miles an hour over the speed limit and I see a system crash.

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/10/09/us-speed-trap-city-disbands-police/ Let Primus explain how that story fits into his fantasy narrative.

Or this http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/10/u...list-when-deciding-which-assets-to-seize.html

Or this http://onlineathens.com/opinion/2014-11-14/dodd-policing-profit-through-asset-forfeiture No conviction? We'll still pown your property! Ahh land of the 'assumed innocent until convicted...' Ahh crap, another Nationalistic fairy tale.

 

[Primus]

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/10/09/us-speed-trap-city-disbands-police/ Let Primus explain how that story fits into his fantasy narrative.

Or this http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/10/u...list-when-deciding-which-assets-to-seize.html

Or this http://onlineathens.com/opinion/2014-11-14/dodd-policing-profit-through-asset-forfeiture No conviction? We'll still pown your property! Ahh land of the 'assumed innocent until convicted...' Ahh crap, another Nationalistic fairy tale.

Lol I was waiting to get to this point in the "discussion". Nothing for me to explain. Post away boys. Post some cool videos of police brutality or speed traps or blah blah blah.

Doesn't change anything. I'm not even impressed, I've heard much better arguments. Some from other guys right on this forum.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

Lol I was waiting to get to this point in the "discussion". Nothing for me to explain. Post away boys. Post some cool videos of police brutality or speed traps or blah blah blah.

Doesn't change anything. I'm not even impressed, I've heard much better arguments. Some from other guys right on this forum.

As previously stated, eventually that defense mechanism will fail you.

 

[Primus]

As previously stated, eventually that defense mechanism will fail you.

I hope not. I genuinely enjoy a good laugh. Life's too short to be humorless.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

This is what happens when people obey the speed limit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoETMCosULQ

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1588989/posts?page=206

David Spear, a spokesman for the state Department of Transportation, said if the students weren't blocking emergency vehicles and were going the speed limit, "they didn't do a thing wrong." Spear added that the speed limit was lowered to 55 because it saves lives. "In Atlanta, the actual effect of it is we expect the people going 75 to move over so the people going 95 can have the right of way," he said.

Genius. They know that no one will actually drive 55, so they hope people drive 75 and stay out of the way of the 95mph crowd.

Genius.

Well, except that part where everyone becomes a lawbreaker -- unless the REAL goal is generating revenue, and creating a trumped up excuse to initiate fishing expeditions for seizures (which personally benefit the officers and their agency).

 

[Dave_pro2a]

I hope not. I genuinely enjoy a good laugh. Life's too short to be humorless.

Like I said: when you lose the ability to laugh off the system's moral turpitude, then your chance of suicide likely skyrockets.

 

[Primus]

This is what happens when people obey the speed limit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoETMCosULQ

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1588989/posts?page=206


Genius. They know that no one will actually drive 55, so they hope people drive 75 and stay out of the way of the 95mph crowd.

Genius.

See I'm not the only guy who finds it funny, it was entered as drama but was moved to the COMEDY section .

 

[Squeak]

Primus, I'd like to ask you a question. Your post count is close to 10 posts per day. Do you have a job? I mean, I'm retired and I don't have THAT much time to be on a forum. Just curious.

 

[Primus]

Primus, I'd like to ask you a question. Your post count is close to 10 posts per day. Do you have a job? I mean, I'm retired and I don't have THAT much time to be on a forum. Just curious.

Takes me maybe 5-10 seconds for average post. So max 100 seconds. That's 1.5 minutes per day.

If your retired and don't have 1.5 minutes to spare I'm sorry to hear that.....

Hell even it I took a full minute to type a post that's 10 minutes per day.

Add: if your doing research you might've noticed it's all being done from phone. So easy to be mobile and do it.

 

[Grapeshot]

Primus, I'd like to ask you a question. Your post count is close to 10 posts per day. Do you have a job? I mean, I'm retired and I don't have THAT much time to be on a forum. Just curious.

So now people with a high post count and high average per day are suspect? :lol: :lol:

 

[Dave_pro2a]

So now people with a high post count and high average per day are suspect? :lol: :lol:

Hey, they do have computers inside cop cars.

He can post all day, every day!

 

[Primus]

Hey, they do have computers inside cop cars.

He can post all day, every day!

Unfortunately no internent access my friend. They even took out the damn solitaire with the new laptops. Its oppression at its worst! Lol

 

[Primus]

Ahhhh but you are magically exempt from the texting while driving law so you can still use your phone to post all day long but only when you are in your magically exempt authorized emergency vehicle.

I don't work days my love . Oh and there is no exemption for us and texting. So if u want move up here get sworn in and cite some guys for texting.

 

[Primus]

http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.668



http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.04.040



Nice try.

Hey smarty pants.... I dont work for WA. Lol