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D.C. Cops to Lock Down Parts of City, Demand ID from Citizens

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thewise1 wrote:
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I like your solution as well. I do not see this as a infringement of the 4th. There is a very probable cuase for going ino these drug areas.
And this is why you're being called a neocon, because neocons can always justify pushing the limits on violating the constitution, unless it's 2) Guns.
You forgot the "for right now" part. When the neo-cons decide that guns are tools of the evil Muslim Mexican illegal immigrant drug-dealing homosexual pornography-peddling anti-war/anti-American atheists, watch those guns disappear too.
 

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BobCav wrote:
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I can prove I'm a citizen, no problem: state-issued driver's license, certified copy of birth certificate, and a passport - none of which I will be showing any deputy sheriff accosting me asking me to "prove" my innocence about anything. I am innocent by default, and if they wish to claim otherwise, let them go through channels and prefer a charge against me.
I wonder what they would do if oh, say 5000 LAC's decided to go for a stroll.
Bob, didn't you see this thread?

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/10745.html

:lol:

:uhoh:

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LOL...100,000 rds per min cannot stop 5000 individuals. The servo electronics to position aren'tfast enough to keep up with that rate of fire! Some will get through. Any volunteers?
 

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imperialism2024 wrote:
thewise1 wrote:
Vegassteve wrote:
I like your solution as well. I do not see this as a infringement of the 4th. There is a very probable cuase for going ino these drug areas.
And this is why you're being called a neocon, because neocons can always justify pushing the limits on violating the constitution, unless it's 2) Guns.
You forgot the "for right now" part. When the neo-cons decide that guns are tools of the evil Muslim Mexican illegal immigrant drug-dealing homosexual pornography-peddling anti-war/anti-American atheists, watch those guns disappear too.
You raise a good point, but they have Democrats to handle that for them in the meantime, so it may never happen :lol:
 

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Vegassteve wrote:
USAF_MetalChris wrote:
Vegassteve wrote:
Third we as NEO-CONS are always calling for a crackdown on the criminals and that is exactly what this is. A drastic measure to get rid of the thugs.
Correction made.

Not all gun owners are neo-cons.
How about NO the correction is not made. I as a gun owner like you and others want them to take down the criminal, not my guns etc. So now that some sort of solution is put up we all complain. Instead of JUST complaining, how about we offer a better solution? Or is that outside the realm of this forums thinkers? Again I agree that it will not work on any sort of level. Its just a foolish show by DC Metro. Not all gun owners are willing to listen to nutjobs like Alex at info wars either.
Two wrongs do not make a right. The better solution is offered in this forum every day. Permit citizens to exercise their 2A right to bear arms. Crime situation solved.4thA not abused.
 

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Sorry to get in this conversation so late. Here's a photo from one of the blogs I read, thought you all might like it. Personally I would be strongly tempted to find out where one of these areas was and go down there and get arrested. Like Danbus, I could really use the money. Might even get my name on a SCOTUS case ! :D

Here's an interesting and revealing post by someone on that blog;

I read this bit of story on that out loud at work, leaving out the City and Official's names:
D.C. police will seal off entire neighborhoods, set up checkpoints and kick out strangers under a new program that D.C. officials hope will help them rescue the city from its out-of-control violence.

Under an executive order expected to be announced today, police Chief Cathy L. Lanier will have the authority to designate “Neighborhood Safety Zones.” At least six officers will man cordons around those zones and demand identification from people coming in and out of them. Anyone who doesn’t live there, work there or have “legitimate reason” to be there will be sent away or face arrest, documents obtained by The Examiner show.

and then asked "What City is this taking place?"

Basra and Baghdad were the guesses.


DCReich.jpg
 

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I believe that the best neighborhood to seal off in DC would be the total area south of H Street...nobody in and sure as hell do not let any of them out!!!!
 

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Toad wrote:
I believe that the best neighborhood to seal off in DC would be the total area south of H Street...nobody in and sure as hell do not let any of them out!!!!
This thread has been useful to see who believes in liberty, freedom, and the constitution, and who does not.
 

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This event really should be a showcase of how the democrats really don't believe in constitutional rights.
 

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Are you attempting to insinuate that I do not believe in liberty, freedom, and the Constitution?

FYI, south of H Street is the White house, the Capital, a large chuck of Government agencies, and worse (the Federal Reserve Board comes to mind here).
 

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Greetings, Patriots,

Washington, District of Columbia, already trod so thoroughly on The Constitution that any further infringements of rights must be considered de rigeur.

The sheep of Washington, District of Columbia eschewed their right to self-protection and granted all authority to the police state. For their cowardice in the face of crime and danger, these sheep have agreed, and the court concurred, that the occasional sacrifice of a lamb, every now and again, is an acceptable loss. The police will not protect individuals, and, with the court in agreement, are only attempting a general societal protection.

Considering that an occasional slaughter is an acceptable sacrifice at the alter of the Nanny State, the abandonment of all personal rights should be of little consequence to the sheep. They gave up life, what else can be more important?

This, it appears, is the correct and appropriate next step for a tyranny in the shadow of the Federal capitol. Step by step, day by day, the armor of liberty is eroded by rust and negligence, not penetrated by force.

The federal tyrants, many from within the very capitol dome (that would weep at such tyranny, ifitcould express itself), will watch the fallout of the Washington, District of Columbia tyranny. If it goes well, they will try it in New Jersey and California, the marxist bookends of the liberal left vice-grip on the liberties of the United States. Modifying the tactic and legal wording as it spreads from state to state, these very events will eventually occur in Austin, Texas and Phoenix, Arizona and Oklahoma City, and many other bastions of previously-thought conservative and free thought -- all in the name of safety and security.

Indeed, these events are already little more than thebackground vistasof the state highways in the southern portions of Arizona and California and Texas, as the Border Police intimidate and harass United States citizens and demand proof of citizenship and compliance to armed pacification to federal authority.

But remember, Patriots, that the only real source of your security comes from the eternal grace of a loving God and the rights He granted to you to protect yourself and your family. Anything else is mis-directed, mis-applied, and the pre-cancer of a tyrannical government policy.

The "event" in Washington, District of Columbia, will be declared a failure -- it will not stop the long-term criminal invasion of the neighborhoods. But the "practice" will be declared a success -- proving to the police elite and the city council that they can mangle the civil liberties of anyone they choose, and get away with impunity.

The whole world is watching ... American Idol, that is.
 

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Toad wrote:
Are you attempting to insinuate that I do not believe in liberty, freedom, and the Constitution?

FYI, south of H Street is the White house, the Capital, a large chuck of Government agencies, and worse (the Federal Reserve Board comes to mind here).
Oh I get it now, my apologies. But there are some others I was giving the skunk eye to as well.
 

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Toad wrote:
Are you attempting to insinuate that I do not believe in liberty, freedom, and the Constitution?

FYI, south of H Street is the White house, the Capital, a large chuck of Government agencies, and worse (the Federal Reserve Board comes to mind here).
Don't give the authorities any ideas though, some folks in power might very well like to wall off the seat of government, and screen who comes in. That's essentially what the 'Green Zone' in Baghdad is, no?
 

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I understand.....I would have liked to post a map to show but with only Dial-up service I have to stick to just text.
 

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longwatch wrote:
Don't give the authorities any ideas though, some folks in power might very well like to wall off the seat of government, and screen who comes in. That's essentially what the 'Green Zone' in Baghdad is, no?
Oh yea...the green zone is a mess!! I could go on about it but this isn't the place.

P.S. I do like the hitchhikers guide reference in your avatar!!! My favorite fiction series
 

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Thanks for the link.....but now I am going to have to dust off the books and read them again.
 

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I say all the guns & drugs DC confiscates from other neighborhoods should be dropped in a big heap just inside the police cordon. Let everyone in, don't let 'em out, give 'em a couple days, and then there'll be no more homicides. Problem solved. ;)

I'm seriously wondering what the city-planners are going to do when SCOTUS stomps the DC handgun ban. Are they going to designate the entire city as a "Neighborhood Safety Zone", and start searching everyone within city-limits for handguns? They've been so deathly afraid of the city becoming a warzone (perish the thought!) if handguns are available to law-abiding citizens; what lengths will DC go to that'll maintain the state of disarmament they've maintained for so long?
 
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