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Wisconsin Carry, Inc. - Chairman wrote:
The OP has been to open-carry events. I suspect he hasn't been back because of the reception he received in this thread.
He came on to share information and got called a troll/liar/etc.
Its very possible that the incident may not show up on a records search by "open-carry" if all the police did was call in his name for a felony/warrant check.
According to the original post the police were driving by on patrol.
There is no way to record what they said standing in someone's front lawn.
open-records responded asking me for a name and address of the incident in question. I only have the date. As I said earlier, if there is no report and no incident report other than a dispatch log of the guys name getting run, nothing will turn up.
Look, I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but we should have gotten facts first. I think a good guy was chased away in this case.
I will respectfully disagree with you on this one. If the officers left their patrol unit they absolutely have to notify dispatch that they have left the vehicle. This would be logged as to the date, time and place. There are no exceptions to this rule. if something bad would go down the dispatcher needs to know where to send back up. This is a policy that is pretty much written in stone with every department.
If the police stopped and got out of their patrol unit and entered someone elses property they would have to inform dispatch. There would be a record.
Has the OP given the exact time, date and address? No he only gave a date and that is because this record would not be that hard for them to find. Why not give you the date, time and address in private if you have talked to him privately? Doesn't that seem odd to you? Is it that hard to admit you may have been had on this one?
I wish I could just trust everyone who comes in here with a story but that is not going to happen. And to think that members here would just let police reach into their pockets is absurd. It was you Nik who first brought up the videos "Don't Talk To Police."
Not to mention that the entire incident is described exactly as an officer would descibe it if he/she were writing a report. I know this because I write those reports everyday. I also have conducted enough investigations to know when things are not adding up. Especially when we can't seem to get any verification that there even was a stop period.
As I stated before, his user name just by coincidence happens to be a firearm carried by many police officers here in Wisconsin. Gee I guess he thought no one would notice.
Believe what you want I am calling shenanigans on this one and at this point I don't care if he runs back to the department and has them make up some bogus file just to make him look good. (And don't think it doesn't happen)
ETA: I understand your hopefulness that everyone here in this forum only comes in support of the cause and that the membership here and in WCI will grow at a great pace by encouraging and welcoming every story. The fact is when people come in here and post a story that discourages OCW then you have to question why they are posting that story and not including the facts such as date, time and place.
Keep in mind many of these officers come in here and do this on their own without thinking that any of us would submit an ORR. Then it backfires on them.
I know many of you think I am chasing off new members but the truth is I am trying to stop supposed new members from scaring off the members here old and new.
Shenanigans!
j.gleason and I agree. We shall see if there was an actual incident recorded.
