nathan
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I was shopping at the Winco on HWY 99 in Hazel Dell, WA. Two Winco employees approached me shortly after I entered the store and informed me that I couldn't carry a gun in the store. I asked to speak to a manager and asked if that was corporate policy. The employee told me he was the manager on duty and that I needed to leave. As I was leaving one of them told me they were on the phone with 911 and that 911 said to stay there until the police arrived so I went outside the store and waited for the police.
The first officer who arrived told me to put my hands on my head and turn around which I did and he proceeded to disarm me. He was pretty upset that I would be carrying a firearm and told me that I was alarming people and he could arrest me. I told him that I disagreed with that and he asked me if I was a lawyer. He told me that I was alarming people and that he could arrest me for disorderly conduct. Now that I'm home I've looked up disorderly conduct and there is no way he could charge me with that crime.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.84.030
Some other officers showed up and we had the same discussion. They told me I could be arrested. I asked if they had received the training bulletin. They seemed surprised and said yes they had received them but hadn't fully reviewed them. They told me that while I wasn't breaking the law was it worth spending the weekend in jail and paying $5,000 to a lawyer to get out of the charges. I asked the officer why he would charge me with a crime that he knew I wouldn't be convicted of. He said _he_ wouldn't do it but some officers might.
All in all I spoke with three separate officers (they were sheriff's dept actually). They all tried to convince me that OC'ing was a bad idea and to just hide it. The first officer told me that he should have made me lay on the wet ground, cuffed me and then just taken me to jail. He wasn't nice at all the whole time. Very interesting encounter. At the end they gave me my Sig back and let me go. The whole thing was about 30 minutes or so, maybe more. Makes me wish I had gotten a tape recorded for Christmas.
So, it sounds like there are training bulletins that have been issued to Clark County. Any way I could get a copy of those? Also I am interested in getting a copy of the 911 call. Any thoughts on the encounter would be appreciated.
Also, does anyone have any info on WinCo corporate policy?
Nathan
I was shopping at the Winco on HWY 99 in Hazel Dell, WA. Two Winco employees approached me shortly after I entered the store and informed me that I couldn't carry a gun in the store. I asked to speak to a manager and asked if that was corporate policy. The employee told me he was the manager on duty and that I needed to leave. As I was leaving one of them told me they were on the phone with 911 and that 911 said to stay there until the police arrived so I went outside the store and waited for the police.
The first officer who arrived told me to put my hands on my head and turn around which I did and he proceeded to disarm me. He was pretty upset that I would be carrying a firearm and told me that I was alarming people and he could arrest me. I told him that I disagreed with that and he asked me if I was a lawyer. He told me that I was alarming people and that he could arrest me for disorderly conduct. Now that I'm home I've looked up disorderly conduct and there is no way he could charge me with that crime.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.84.030
Some other officers showed up and we had the same discussion. They told me I could be arrested. I asked if they had received the training bulletin. They seemed surprised and said yes they had received them but hadn't fully reviewed them. They told me that while I wasn't breaking the law was it worth spending the weekend in jail and paying $5,000 to a lawyer to get out of the charges. I asked the officer why he would charge me with a crime that he knew I wouldn't be convicted of. He said _he_ wouldn't do it but some officers might.
All in all I spoke with three separate officers (they were sheriff's dept actually). They all tried to convince me that OC'ing was a bad idea and to just hide it. The first officer told me that he should have made me lay on the wet ground, cuffed me and then just taken me to jail. He wasn't nice at all the whole time. Very interesting encounter. At the end they gave me my Sig back and let me go. The whole thing was about 30 minutes or so, maybe more. Makes me wish I had gotten a tape recorded for Christmas.
So, it sounds like there are training bulletins that have been issued to Clark County. Any way I could get a copy of those? Also I am interested in getting a copy of the 911 call. Any thoughts on the encounter would be appreciated.
Also, does anyone have any info on WinCo corporate policy?
Nathan