Just tuned up the Security guard here!!

[deanf]

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Depends on if he is working as an employee of the complex, or of a contracted security company.

 

[911Boss]

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Is he hired by the apartments?

Maybe time to make a complaint to the about being harassed by their employee. Is his job supposed to be bothering tenants or addressing actual problems on the property?

 

[Aaron1124]

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A lot of apartment security are "in house" meaning they are employed by the complex itself. There are some that hire contracting agencies though, and for liability reasons, most contracting agencies require that their officers get some sort of guard card.

 

[deanf]

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There are some that hire contracting agencies though, and for liability reasons, most contracting agencies require that their officers get some sort of guard card.

State issued licenses are required for guards working for security companies under RCW 18.170.

 

[Batousaii]

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Aaron1124 wrote:

Hard to tell if Dean is being sarcastic or not, but you don't even need to have a guard card to work security. A lot of companies just require it for liability reasons.

If it's an individual working for a private establishment, as in they hired him directly, then no he doesn't need a guard card. HOWEVER, If he is working for a guard company, and the establishment hires one of those guards (subcontracted) then yes they do need a card, and in that case Dean would be correct. Look at the patch on his shoulder, if it says "This Place appartments" - then he dont need the card. .. If it says "Security Company X" - then he does.

 

[Batousaii]

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deanf wrote:

There are some that hire contracting agencies though, and for liability reasons, most contracting agencies require that their officers get some sort of guard card.

State issued licenses are required for guards working for security companies under RCW 18.170.

Yeap - there it is (My Bad, not reading everything) - Pre coffee ---

 

[DEROS72]

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It is a security firm hired by the complex.I have already complained to his boss.

 

[911Boss]

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DEROS72 wrote:

It is a security firm hired by the complex.I have already complained to his boss.

I seem to recall from previous posts that you are on the good side of the apt manager correct?

A complaint to them may go farther than a complaint to the security company folks. You aren't their "customer", the complex is and when the customer complains, it is more likely to have an impact. Especially if you believe he may be working for the problem element "on the side".

 

[j2l3]

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Aaron1124 wrote:

Hard to tell if Dean is being sarcastic or not, but you don't even need to have a guard card to work security. A lot of companies just require it for liability reasons.

Actually, if you work for a contract company, you MUST be licensed by the state and carry your license at all times whgile on duty.

If you work directly for the company you are providing security for, you are not required to be licensed. This particular security guard is contracted and MUST be licensed.

 

[Aaron1124]

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deanf wrote:

There are some that hire contracting agencies though, and for liability reasons, most contracting agencies require that their officers get some sort of guard card.

State issued licenses are required for guards working for security companies under RCW 18.170.

Yeah I knew private security companies need their guards to get them. What I meant was that the reason is most likely due to liability. That law actually helps protect them.

In the case of a security officer employed by a contracting agency is sued for having to use some sort of force with a weapon, then the company will have the claim that he is certified and has undergone training in order to get his certification. Looks much better than having absolutely no professional training.

 

[joeroket]

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Aaron1124 wrote:

Hard to tell if Dean is being sarcastic or not, but you don't even need to have a guard card to work security. A lot of companies just require it for liability reasons.

If you are uniformed or work for a private security company then you are required under state law to be licensed.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=18.170

 

[Mainsail]

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Sometimes you just get tired of suffering ignorant people. The last time (or one of the last times, it's been so many I forget) that some low level employee at Cabela's told me I had to check in my pistol I just looked at him and said, "No, I don't."

Some days that's the best they'll get from me.

 

[ChuckUFarley]

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Sometimes you just got to unload with both barrels

 

[GreatWhiteLlama]

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DEROS72 wrote:

Maybe a bunch of us just going for a walk.

I like walks

 

[gsx1138]

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Mainsail wrote:

Sometimes you just get tired of suffering ignorant people. The last time (or one of the last times, it's been so many I forget) that some low level employee at Cabela's told me I had to check in my pistol I just looked at him and said, "No, I don't."

Some days that's the best they'll get from me.

Do they allow OC at Cabela's?

 

[Machoduck]

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For everyone but Mailsail.

 

[GreatWhiteLlama]

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Machoduck wrote:

For everyone but Mailsail.

Maybe its because his entire wardrobe consists of this shirt in various colors...

 

[antispam540]

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So you can offer your services as an unlicensed security guard? That's pretty cool.

 

[Aaron1124]

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antispam540 wrote:

So you can offer your services as an unlicensed security guard? That's pretty cool.

Nice credentials there.

 

[FE427TP]

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deanf wrote:

Next time demand to see his Washington State security guard's license.

He's required to have one and to display it to any person upon demand. Failure to is a gross misdemeanor.

congrats, but that's all but worthless since he has until an officer asks to get it on his person...
[size=RCW 10.31.100][/size] [size=Arrest without warrant.][/size]
A police officer having probable cause to believe that a person has committed or is committing a felony shall have the authority to arrest the person without a warrant. A police officer may arrest a person without a warrant for committing a misdemeanor or gross misdemeanor only when the offense is committed in the presence of the officer