SpyderTattoo
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I'll try to make this quick... Yesterday after work, I went to Kent Station shopping mall to go to the Zumiez skateboard/snowboard shop to try and find a new hat for winter. OC from the back parking lot all the way to the store with no problems. As I was just opening the door to the store, 2 Kent police bicycle officers were slowly riding down the sidewalk on the other side of the driveway. They were on my weak side and didn't notice me. I thought nothing of it.
After looking at the hats in the store for about 2 minutes, the two officers entered the store and asked to speak with me. I said "yes, no problem". Officer 1 asked me to pull my shirt over my Kimber 1911 so we could all go outside and talk. I said "I can't conceal" and his jaw dropped. It was so funny... I explained that my CPL was in my truck and I couldn't conceal. He told me, that's OKfor me to conceal now while we go talk outside, since I told him my CPL was not on my person. I told him "No, you are asking me to break the law by concealing" At this point he backed off on that subject. (The store manager who was outside and saw me walk into his store must have contacted the police, then come into the store.)
The two officers and I went outside onto the sidewalk (me still OC'ing) and they ran my ID and we chatted while that was happening. The two officers were very friendly, asking about my Kimber and chatting while they waited for my ID check to come back. But officer 1 kept asking me to go to my truck to get my CPL so that I could come back to do my shopping so I don't scare mothers and children. I said that I wouldn't go back to my truck to get it because if I didn't find what I wanted at this one store, I'd be leaving anyway. He asked me several times to make their jobs easier and go get my CPL. I politely kept saying no, I would not, I'm well within my rights. He said he appreciated my position.
I told him that if the store manager didn't want me back in there I'd be happy to shop somewhere else, so Officer 2 went in to ask the manager. He came out and said that the manager had no problem with me shopping there. So the 2 officers left and I went back inside to look for a hat. (never found the hat I wanted there anyway) The manager (maybe 19 years old) tried to apologize to me about the situation, I told him I understood, and gave him a pamphlet. (I had offered a pamphlet to the officers, which they wanted nothing to do with.) Overall the KPD officers were very friendly, polite, and professional. Zumiez in Kent Station should be added to the DO patronize list.
Question, did the officers really have the right to run my ID, since I was clearly not committing a crime?
I'll try to make this quick... Yesterday after work, I went to Kent Station shopping mall to go to the Zumiez skateboard/snowboard shop to try and find a new hat for winter. OC from the back parking lot all the way to the store with no problems. As I was just opening the door to the store, 2 Kent police bicycle officers were slowly riding down the sidewalk on the other side of the driveway. They were on my weak side and didn't notice me. I thought nothing of it.
After looking at the hats in the store for about 2 minutes, the two officers entered the store and asked to speak with me. I said "yes, no problem". Officer 1 asked me to pull my shirt over my Kimber 1911 so we could all go outside and talk. I said "I can't conceal" and his jaw dropped. It was so funny... I explained that my CPL was in my truck and I couldn't conceal. He told me, that's OKfor me to conceal now while we go talk outside, since I told him my CPL was not on my person. I told him "No, you are asking me to break the law by concealing" At this point he backed off on that subject. (The store manager who was outside and saw me walk into his store must have contacted the police, then come into the store.)
The two officers and I went outside onto the sidewalk (me still OC'ing) and they ran my ID and we chatted while that was happening. The two officers were very friendly, asking about my Kimber and chatting while they waited for my ID check to come back. But officer 1 kept asking me to go to my truck to get my CPL so that I could come back to do my shopping so I don't scare mothers and children. I said that I wouldn't go back to my truck to get it because if I didn't find what I wanted at this one store, I'd be leaving anyway. He asked me several times to make their jobs easier and go get my CPL. I politely kept saying no, I would not, I'm well within my rights. He said he appreciated my position.
I told him that if the store manager didn't want me back in there I'd be happy to shop somewhere else, so Officer 2 went in to ask the manager. He came out and said that the manager had no problem with me shopping there. So the 2 officers left and I went back inside to look for a hat. (never found the hat I wanted there anyway) The manager (maybe 19 years old) tried to apologize to me about the situation, I told him I understood, and gave him a pamphlet. (I had offered a pamphlet to the officers, which they wanted nothing to do with.) Overall the KPD officers were very friendly, polite, and professional. Zumiez in Kent Station should be added to the DO patronize list.
Question, did the officers really have the right to run my ID, since I was clearly not committing a crime?