My son took a gun to school yesterday...

[wrightme]

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I hope this teacher attitude does not travel to my son's school. He wears one of these hats to school frequently. :shock:

 

[.40 Cal]

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XD-GEM wrote:

There were several similar stories on the net this past year. Some kid was suspended for making a gun with his fingers; another was suspended for using a pen with a Glock logo.

Perhaps we should teach young boys that, instead of "cops and robbers," they should play "social worker and disadvantaged youth." They can go around trying to get their friends to talk about their feelings and how deprived they've been in life.

Gee, Wally, sounds keen!

Sad... but funny!

 

[shad0wfax]

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XD-GEM wrote:

[SNIP] Some kid was suspended for making a gun with his fingers; another was suspended for using a pen with a Glock logo.

[SNIP]

Yeah, I'd have suspended him for using a Glock logo pen too. He should have known better and had a Springfield XD logo on his pen.



(because you can never have enough Glock vs. XD threads in this place)

</sarcasm>

 

[rugergirl]

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It may not be wise for me to get involved in a thread regarding schools and policies. I've had way to many issues with my local school district's teachers views and policies.

We will leave it at this: I send my daughter to school to get an education, not to be brainwashed with the teachers personal values. It is there just to educate the children, and that is all. It is my child'sright to form her own values!

:cuss:

 

[Hawkflyer]

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rugergirl wrote:

...SNIP

I send my daughter to school to get an education, not to be brainwashed with the teachers personal values. It is there just to educate the children, and that is all. It is my child'sright to form her own values!

:cuss:

Hows that been working out for you?

 

[rugergirl]

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about as well as :banghead:

 

[deepdiver]

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The feminizing of America....

 

[PavePusher]

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deepdiver wrote:

The feminizing of America....

Not so fast. I don't know/associate with any women who would match this blanket statement... I would go with "dumbing down" or "wimpization" or something like that. You're insulting quite a large chunk of American females including my mother, grandmother, sister-in-law, etc......

 

[Hawkflyer]

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PavePusher wrote:

deepdiver wrote:

The feminizing of America....

Not so fast. I don't know/associate with any women who would match this blanket statement... I would go with "dumbing down" or "wimpization" or something like that. You're insulting quite a large chunk of American females including my mother, grandmother, sister-in-law, etc......

+1

Not to mention the poster right before you.

I think it only fair to mention that my wife is one VERY good shot. I will try to keep her from seeing you posts relating to women, but I can make no promises. While both she and I were raised here in Virginia, we both went to school in Missouri, so she does know how to get there.:lol:

My recommendation is that if you want to be a misogynist there are better websites and forums for that than this one.

 

[rugergirl]

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PavePusher wrote:

deepdiver wrote:

The feminizing of America....

Not so fast. I don't know/associate with any women who would match this blanket statement... I would go with "dumbing down" or "wimpization" or something like that. You're insulting quite a large chunk of American females including my mother, grandmother, sister-in-law, etc......

Uhm, yes, I'm wondering what that statement means myself?

I hope he will expand on his thoughts.

Mine are that it is not the job of the teachers to impose their personal values on the children. They are there to teach a curriculum, not to bias the children with their personal feelings on anything outside of the educational material they are supposed to be teaching.

Issues of race, sexual orientation and other subjects are not part of any curriculum I an aware of.

As far as "feminizing" I feel like I want to take issue with an assumption on his part, and would love to know what was meant here?

If he considers a woman who has mostly masculine interests and encourages her daughter to do what she is interested in doing and not worry about society saying "Girls can't do(blank) well then I guess I'm a feminist.

If he thinks a 2 year old girl shouldn't be able to identify a 9/16th inch combination wrench on sight, I'd love to hear that too.

Where is the frowning emoticon???

 

[.40 Cal]

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Saw your profile, Rugergirl. Guess you like catchingthose walleye running between Port Huron and Detroit. I agree that feminization is not the term I would choose, but the idea behind it is something with which I agree. Our country is moving to an emotional state as opposed to arational state, and these are not gender related attributes. It is happening in the schools (preschool in my case) through the education our teachers provide our kids (our is used here because they bothsurvive thanks to parents/taxpayers).

 

[rugergirl]

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An occasional walleye is fine with me, but doesn't get the blood pumping quite as much as a 5+ pound smallie on an ultralight spooled with 4 lb test line.

I guess I like a challenge


As far as the emotional state I agree, too many people(in general) think emotionally rather than rationally. I am proud to say I am not among that group, but I have seen them and they are scary.

 

[BabyGlock]

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I read your post and saw that it is the way that the schools are going.

What should you do?

HOMESCHOOL!

If your wife works, have her quit her job and do the right thing for your son.

Your son does not want to go and you should not take him. Do not force him.

Children are very intuitive and you are absolutely hurting him by taking him there.

Forgive me, but the public school system is trying to brainwash our kids to be good little socialists/communists.

Obviously the school you are taking him to is no different.

Do the right thing for your child! You will not ever regret taking him out. Children are so much better being homeschooled. Just interact with him a lot!

He needs a good father who spends a lot of time with him.

Masad Ayoob has a really good book out about raising children with guns in your home. It is worthwhile getting!

Sincerely,
BabyGlock

 

[Hawkflyer]

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BabyGlock wrote:

I read your post and saw that it is the way that the schools are going.

What should you do?

HOMESCHOOL!

If your wife works, have her quit her job and do the right thing for your son.

Your son does not want to go and you should not take him. Do not force him.

Children are very intuitive and you are absolutely hurting him by taking him there.

Forgive me, but the public school system is trying to brainwash our kids to be good little socialists/communists.

Obviously the school you are taking him to is no different.

Do the right thing for your child! You will not ever regret taking him out. Children are so much better being homeschooled. Just interact with him a lot!

He needs a good father who spends a lot of time with him.

Masad Ayoob has a really good book out about raising children with guns in your home. It is worthwhile getting!

Sincerely,
BabyGlock

Or HE could quit HIS job and do the right thing by his son. Welcome to the new millennium where we think of people as equals no matter their sex.

 

[Slayer of Paper]

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.40 Cal wrote:

Take a look at this. My 4 year old had to bring things that start with the letter G to his preschool. I said take that, not knowing that they had a no toy gun rule. My wife explained the rule to me, and I assumed that since this didn't even look like a firearm it would OK. WRONG! My little boy came home with a letter from the teachers telling us that Ryan continues to make toy guns out of LEGOS and play cops and robbers, and this makes the other sheep in the class feel threatened.

Really? So they're telling me that the police are a bad influence? Now my son doesn't want to go back to school because he's afraid he's going to get in trouble. All this over a pop gun. And I actually pay several hundred dollars a month for him to go there. Now I'll have to stare that nose ring wearing, Birkenstock sporting, ideallistic little bitch of a teacher that he has in her smug face every time I take him, and I'll know that se made my son hate going to school.

What would you guys do?

Start home-schooling IMMEDIATELY.

 

[varminter22]

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wrightme wrote:

I hope this teacher attitude does not travel to my son's school. He wears one of these hats to school frequently. :shock:

Great post, Dave! And I can vouch for that!

He does have one of these too, doesn't he???

Seriously though, since I don't have kids I'm afraid I must admit I haven't paid due attention to the "problem" in our schools. Maybe its time we ALL liaise with parents, document specific issues/problems, and voice our concerns at school board meetings.

 

[lildobe]

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BabyGlock wrote:

I read your post and saw that it is the way that the schools are going.

What should you do?

HOMESCHOOL!

+1

I was homeschooled throughout my Primary and Secondary education and I, personally, feel that I am much better off for it.

Though I do have to point out that it is BOTH parent's responsibility to teach the child, not just the mother.... While my father WAS the "bread winner" in the family, he still taught me many things, especially Math and Computer Sciences. My mother educated me in most other subjects, and for the few that they could not teach me, we found private tutors to teach.

If you don't like the way the Public (or even Private) schools are teaching your children, step up and TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for your offspring, as you have for your family's safety!

 

[Aran]

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Edit: Wow, left this page open and it got to three pages. Gonna go read what I missed and THEN see about a reply...

 

[Aran]

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BabyGlock wrote:

I read your post and saw that it is the way that the schools are going.

What should you do?

HOMESCHOOL!

If your wife works, have her quit her job and do the right thing for your son.

Your son does not want to go and you should not take him. Do not force him.

Children are very intuitive and you are absolutely hurting him by taking him there.

Forgive me, but the public school system is trying to brainwash our kids to be good little socialists/communists.

Obviously the school you are taking him to is no different.

Do the right thing for your child! You will not ever regret taking him out. Children are so much better being homeschooled. Just interact with him a lot!

He needs a good father who spends a lot of time with him.

Masad Ayoob has a really good book out about raising children with guns in your home. It is worthwhile getting!

Sincerely,
BabyGlock

So what's it like living in the 1930s?

 

[.40 Cal]

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The irony in that last statement is that economically and politically our country is back at that point in time, however the family values are gone and the schools do not have the moral and ethical measuring stick beating them over the head anymore.

My wife quit working 4 years ago, about the same time that my son was about to be born. Our decision was that his foundation would be better established if we raised him ourselves prior to kindergarten. The problem is that in preparation for Kindergarten and the morestructured environment, we decided to put him into preschool for three half days a week. I know we can do better than they can, considering that based on their curriculum, my son had to be moved to the 5 year old class because he was more advanced than the kids in his age group (yes I'm proud).We'll have to weigh out our options whe next year comes along. In the meantime, I spoke to the administrator and explained thatI believe she is being heavy handed with my son because it takes more than one kid to play cops and robbers, but Ryan claims he's the only one getting in trouble. I explained to her that I have tried to install the values of virtue and leadership in my son, and to a young child they arerepresented by police officers. Maybe she should see why the teacher is picking on my son. She said she would, and that was all. Nothing more Iwill do now, but I'm watching.