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NVFAC - who is the genious behind this last decision?

wrightme

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Just FYI in a email today from the nvfac, at the meeting if you bring your blue cards they will laminate them for free. That does not make me feel better. It should be a burning party of the cards. This to me is more a level of acceptance.

If I was down there, and received that email, I would reply to Don, and ask him WHY would you have ANY desire to laminate something that is useless, isn't required to be carried around, and that they are allegedly working to repeal..... With feeling.
 

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If I was down there, and received that email, I would reply to Don, and ask him WHY would you have ANY desire to laminate something that is useless, isn't required to be carried around, and that they are allegedly working to repeal..... With feeling.

Already in the works.
 

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Just FYI in a email today from the nvfac, at the meeting if you bring your blue cards they will laminate them for free. That does not make me feel better. It should be a burning party of the cards. This to me is more a level of acceptance.

Every time I rethink joining, I'm faced with the cold reality that they won't work for my interests.
 

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I let Don Turner know how I felt about the message sent, intentionally or unintentionally, with the offer to laminate blue cards. Just to show that I do NOT believe it says they want to make them 'permanent,' here is the december email stating the NVFAC position on Clark County 'blue card' registration:

News Alerts from the Nevada Firearms Coalition


ANNUAL MEETING: MARK YOUR CALENDARS, NVFAC will host our first annual members meeting on February 23, 2013 at the Clark County Shooting Complex on 11357 N. Decatur Road, Las Vegas. The annual meeting will begin at 1 p.m. in the “multipurpose room” at the shotgun center. There will be a member’s shotgun shoot the morning of the 23rd. Right now we have a trap and skeet field reserved, but the complex may have their new sporting clays course open then and we can shoot that. All members are invited to participate in the event and the meeting.

MEMBERSHIP RENEWALS: Membership renewals are in progress, so be sure to renew your membership.

NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED: Eric McGovern has been appointed as our new Southern Area Director. He is replacing Terry Farr who has done a great job this first year. Thanks Terry! We are looking forward to working with Eric. He may be reached at eric@nvfac.org.

FUND RAISING FOR LOBBYIST: We are raising money to hire a lobbyist for the next legislative session. New Frontier Firearms has taken the leadership role on this project, so be sure to drop by their store. They also have a 10% discount on ammunition the first Sunday of every month if you show your NVFAC membership card.

ON LINE STORE: Our on line store is growing. We just added the Recon Cigar line, great Christmas Presents. Visit the store today and order your NVFAC official logo clothing. We will be adding high quality gun lube, and targets in the near future.

ELIMINATE CLARK COUNTY HANDGUN PROGRAM: Our petitions are circulating around Clark County, we have over 1,500 so far. They are addressed to the Clark County Board of County Commission to eliminate the wasteful handgun registration program in Clark County.

NEW STATE LAW: Our new pre-emption language is completed and several state legislators have been agreed to sponsor it. If passed it will help us achieve our goal of one gun law for all Nevada citizens. We are also working on elimination of new gun check fee, campus carry, civil protection for use of firearm is self-defense and other topics.

POSITION STATEMENTS: NVFAC has filed position statements with the appropriate agencies regarding the Clark County Handgun Registration Program, Guns in Las Vegas City Parks, and the Attorney General’s position on CCWs.

The NVFAC does NOT support blue card registration in Clark County. An offer to laminate blue cards was a very poor, contradictory to the stated goals of the NVFAC, and obviously not well thought through.
 

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Just FYI in a email today from the nvfac, at the meeting if you bring your blue cards they will laminate them for free. That does not make me feel better. It should be a burning party of the cards. This to me is more a level of acceptance.

What else would you expect, from the NRA's official state affiliate, a club which gives legitimacy to Bob Irwin?
 

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The NVFAC does NOT support blue card registration in Clark County. An offer to laminate blue cards was a very poor, contradictory to the stated goals of the NVFAC, and obviously not well thought through.

Funny thing about "stated goals," a group can state anything they like.

It's what they DO that counts.

I can hardly wait for them to try to spin this one. Maybe they can say they wanted to preserve them for museum display, after the law is corrected . . .
 

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Funny thing about "stated goals," a group can state anything they like.

It's what they DO that counts.

I can hardly wait for them to try to spin this one. Maybe they can say they wanted to preserve them for museum display, after the law is corrected . . .
Well, if you are truly interested, you could always email don turner and ask him what the heck they were thinking.


I did. And, I clearly explained to him how idiotic it looked to offer to permanentize the card representing what they claim to desire to eliminate. IOW, instead of simply getting on here and bitch, I discussed it with them too.

And, yes, it is most important what they do, instead of only what they say they are going to do. If you expect them to get the blue card repealed this year, don't hold your breath. At least one chair has already said that no pro-gun legislation will pass out of his committee. This will be a VERY tough legislative session.
 
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Funny thing about "stated goals," a group can state anything they like.

It's what they DO that counts.
. . .

From the Nevada Firearms Coalition web page:
It is our objective to be there and promote positive laws for NV firearms owners, clubs and organizations. It is time for Nevada shooters to be a factor in gun rights laws, regulations as well as participants in our sports.

Truely! I am looking forward to seeing some really amazing results from the NVFAC's efforts at the current legislative session. I'd also applaud the start of advancing some of the other things listed on the web-site under "Purpose and Objectives" such the as training, competition and pr objectives.

Lets all keep a positive mind set and pray for the success of the NVFAC's efforts.

Ken
 

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Just a thought to those that don't think overall the NVFAC is worth supporting in its entirety. Why not send a small donation to the Coalition with directions that the money only be used to support legislative efforts. They are in the process now of hiring a lobbyist to spend the session in Cason City. Or, send a donation for training or whatever else trips your trigger. There seems to me to be at least something that each one of us can get behind.

TBG
 

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Just a thought to those that don't think overall the NVFAC is worth supporting in its entirety. Why not send a small donation to the Coalition with directions that the money only be used to support legislative efforts. They are in the process now of hiring a lobbyist to spend the session in Cason City. Or, send a donation for training or whatever else trips your trigger. There seems to me to be at least something that each one of us can get behind.

TBG

When you donate to a group, unless THEY specify or agree that it will only be used for a specific purpose, there is no legal requirement that they obey your wishes as to how the money is spent, and you have no recourse if they spend it on something else.
 

DON`T TREAD ON ME

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Just a thought to those that don't think overall the NVFAC is worth supporting in its entirety. Why not send a small donation to the Coalition with directions that the money only be used to support legislative efforts. They are in the process now of hiring a lobbyist to spend the session in Cason City. Or, send a donation for training or whatever else trips your trigger. There seems to me to be at least something that each one of us can get behind.

TBG

Shouldn't you also ask for a letter certifying that your donation will not be used for laminating supplies?

This is connecting Dots, But when I was new to town I purchased a few guns from Bob Irwin's Store, They would never let me leave without laminating my Blue Card, so I could carry it with me in my wallet..... I am not trying to make the connection,

I have a hard time with the lack of thought process.

NVFAC
"We Are against CCGR" (Clark County Gun Registration) But the only range they have supported to date is CCSC
We want to repeal the Blue card ..... But come out and get yours laminated!!!

So they should understand me stating officially: "I support the NVFAC," Then passing out flyers that are critical of their actions at the meeting.
Anyone that takes the NVFAC at their word, needs to give my statement above the same credibility, to avoid being hypocritical;

The decisions of the NVFAC smell like last weeks socks!

I have offered to help at no charge but was told i have to be a paying member before I was considered.... That goes against all of my principals and exposes the NVFAC to what they are about if you were to ask me!
 

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I live 40 mins from the county range. I am not out in the wilderness mind you. I am close to summerlin, but by the time I drive to the park it's 40 mins. On a good day. I am equally as far and closer to any number of places in the open desert to shoot. So his argument about the closing of the desert or other free land is moot. Don was a player in the county park he had and had a vested interest in it. I on the other hand as a tax payer have the same if not more interest. I pay taxes that helped build it and continue to pay them to support the money suck of a park. They are the only park that charges for use yet are still underwater . If the largest gun group in Nevada wants to make a dent this was the chance. They blew it.

I hear ya! I live next to Red Rock casino. Ive decided its best to drive through red rock park and head up to pahrump to do some desert shooting. I also heard from one of the range masters that all the brass they obtain CANNOT be recycled for profit due the city banning them from doing so....this was clark county shooting park i believe. If im talking about the wrong range you are free to insult me :cool:
 

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I hear ya! I live next to Red Rock casino. Ive decided its best to drive through red rock park and head up to pahrump to do some desert shooting. I also heard from one of the range masters that all the brass they obtain CANNOT be recycled for profit due the city banning them from doing so....this was clark county shooting park i believe. If im talking about the wrong range you are free to insult me :cool:

Yep that's the park. No insult needed. I do not find it hard to believe that the city would ban them selling it
 
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