ixtow
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LuvmyXD9 wrote:
Do not the irrational make MWAG calls when they see ANY gun?
I don't like your argument, because no, it is not logical. Please, stop pretending this point hasn't been made. You're being a neanderthal about it. OOOOO, now that I've lobbed back the same insults you have, can we actually cite reason and logic?
A large group of ANY guns will bring negative attention. The Media, if present, will not allow any other kind! Have you not been paying attention? Anything that defies their agenda gets the negative spin job. Wake up! This gun, that gun, it won't make a difference. But to the public they spread it around to, there is the rub. Regardless of the Media's intent, people will see the big bad AR-15s not doing anything bad. Maybe some will choose ignorance and fear. Some always do. But some wake up. The swelling of our ranks evidences that.
I think the most telling aspect of people who might attend this event with a long gun, is that, even here, we do not agree on the man's behavior. There would be people supporting and detracting him, armed with big mean evil black rifles, even if the people from this forum exclusively were to attend! Not shooting each other. In view of cameras. The spin added would only have an impact on those who are too dumb to think for themselves anyway. The hearts and minds of these cannot be appealed to by fact or logic anyway. No one should ever be concerned with the response of their kind. There is no point in speaking to the deaf.
Well, maybe HankT.... But we all know he's a douche nozzle and really don't care.
LuvmyXD9 wrote:
Again, you try to assert that the difference between "scare" and "educate" lies in your own intent.ixtow wrote:
The 'be reasonable' argument is always a failure. I have to agree with the Professor on this one. His argument is logical, where the 'be reasonable' argument is anything but.
Sonora, you had to leave the same state I am in... Would you like Arizona to become no better? Kommiefornia IS importing it's anti-gun crap to your state. OC of ANYTHING scares stupid people who have been brainwashed. Exposing them to it un-brainwashes them. Sometimes, maybe, usually, there are no absolutes.
It is a step. Another step. If you expose people to the reality that carrying an AR-15 doesn't 'cause' anything bad to happen... Then certainly your, and eventually my, 1911 will be even less threatening to them; as it should be. In effect, carrying an AK or an AR is using their own propaganda against them.
"If the big bad scary so-called 'assault weapon' didn't 'do' anything bad, well, then surely a 1911 is even less of a big deal...." They have classified that so-called 'assault weapon' as being somehow worse than other guns. Sure, we know it's a load of bunk. But most people don't. Use the enemy's own lies against them. If the AR was nothing to fear, then the supposedly 'regular' guns can't be either.
'Being reasonable' is what allowed the gun haters to spread their bunk in the first place. If sitting on your thumbs caused the problem, it cannot possibly be the solution.
My argument is perfectly logical, you just don't like it. Your rights are not a toy to amuse yourself with. A large group of long guns will bring negative attention. Open carry your sidearm that you carry everywhere else? Sure no problem. Just don't be a Neanderthal about it.
Our job is to EDUCATE, not SCARE.
Do not the irrational make MWAG calls when they see ANY gun?
I don't like your argument, because no, it is not logical. Please, stop pretending this point hasn't been made. You're being a neanderthal about it. OOOOO, now that I've lobbed back the same insults you have, can we actually cite reason and logic?
A large group of ANY guns will bring negative attention. The Media, if present, will not allow any other kind! Have you not been paying attention? Anything that defies their agenda gets the negative spin job. Wake up! This gun, that gun, it won't make a difference. But to the public they spread it around to, there is the rub. Regardless of the Media's intent, people will see the big bad AR-15s not doing anything bad. Maybe some will choose ignorance and fear. Some always do. But some wake up. The swelling of our ranks evidences that.
I think the most telling aspect of people who might attend this event with a long gun, is that, even here, we do not agree on the man's behavior. There would be people supporting and detracting him, armed with big mean evil black rifles, even if the people from this forum exclusively were to attend! Not shooting each other. In view of cameras. The spin added would only have an impact on those who are too dumb to think for themselves anyway. The hearts and minds of these cannot be appealed to by fact or logic anyway. No one should ever be concerned with the response of their kind. There is no point in speaking to the deaf.
Well, maybe HankT.... But we all know he's a douche nozzle and really don't care.