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OC without CPL on a bicycle legal, Maybe not????

cmdr_iceman71

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stainless1911 said:
Im pretty sure they found out, legally or otherwise, otherwise they would have likely charged him. They were looking for any excuse to do so.
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You are correct. I never showed the LEOs my CPL. I only handed over my I.D. so they could write the ticket. The LEOs had dispatch run my name so as to confirm that I had a CPL. Given that I was OCing, I do not know to what end did the LEO need to know I had a CPL.
 
stainless1911

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cmdr_iceman71 said:
You are correct. I never showed the LEOs my CPL. I only handed over my I.D. so they could write the ticket. The LEOs had dispatch run my name so as to confirm that I had a CPL. Given that I was OCing, I do not know to what end did the LEO need to know I had a CPL.
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I think they would have charged you for a CCW, had you not had a valid CPL. You would have been our test case. Im glad we didnt have to go through that, especially for your sake.
 
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stainless1911 said:
I think a "square inch " regulation could be bad. What if they raised the square inch requirement to where it was just a little bit bigger than most guns?
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Think about what you just said... Not possible as the square inch requirment would be a percent of whatever the total sizeof the gun in question was.

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Venator

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autosurgeon said:
Think about what you just said... Not possible as the square inch requirment would be a percent of whatever the total sizeof the gun in question was.

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I agree with Stainless. You have to use a % not square inches. The comment WAS a square inch and not a percentage. "I know that some states have gone as far as placing square inch of weapon exposed..."
 
DrTodd

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Venator said:
I agree with Stainless. You have to use a % not square inches. The comment WAS a square inch and not a percentage. "I know that some states have gone as far as placing square inch of weapon exposed..."
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Good point. In my readings over the years I recall there was a state (Arizona??) that had a requirement of exposed square-inches in order to be OC. I will look for it. But, a percentage would be better because as has been pointed out, I don't know if my NAA .22mag could ever be OC if the square-inch requirement was in place. But, my point was only to state that a clear, reasonable definition from the legislature would be nice.

** If it was Arizona, I am aware that they now allow CC/OC by everyone legally able to carry...
 
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stainless1911 said:
Oh geez. Ive heard they can be a little slow with thiers. Maybe you could just go in and pick it up.
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Sheriff said about 2-3 months in the mail.

I have a horrible feeling that I forgot to write my driver's license number on my app, I didn't have it handy when I was initially filling it out, and I can't remember if I ever went back and wrote it in before I submitted it.
 
PDinDetroit

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aepfelsauce said:
Sheriff said about 2-3 months in the mail.

I have a horrible feeling that I forgot to write my driver's license number on my app, I didn't have it handy when I was initially filling it out, and I can't remember if I ever went back and wrote it in before I submitted it.
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Yeah, from what I seen posted, Wayne County sucks at CPL Processing Times.

You may want to go to MGO and poke around the CC Forum to see if any assistance is available...

http://www.migunowners.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=150
 
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cmdr_iceman71 said:
You are correct. I never showed the LEOs my CPL. I only handed over my I.D. so they could write the ticket. The LEOs had dispatch run my name so as to confirm that I had a CPL. Given that I was OCing, I do not know to what end did the LEO need to know I had a CPL.
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If they felt that a CPL was needed to OC on a bike, they would have asked for it. And if it was required, you would have had to supply it. They know that it is not needed. That is why they did not ask for it. Not because they found out from dispatch.
 
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