1. Get off your high horse.
2. If you had read the above conversations we all were not giving "legal advice" we were speculating and reviewing current MO law and trying to establish a credible legal stand point and opinion on the subject. Are you a lawyer? or the thought police? Cuz you seem to be very quick to judge.
Perhaps I can clear a few things up for you real fast, I numbered your statements for clarity:
On #1 You shall find that I will indeed completely ignore your request without any regard for its merit. I have a huge ego and if you ask around a bit, you will find out I really do not care if you happen to like it or not. I do however quite enjoy your comments about free speech and offer that if you understood it in the least, you would already know it means I too will say whatever I want just as I will grant you the same courtesy, even when it means I shall express your not real bright, your opinion is of no consequence to me expressing mine that is possible you are a possible troll.
On #2 one of two things exist within that short paragraph, you have either chosen to try and hide your position through deception, your you actually do not know what you are talking about at all. Take another look, here I will copy and paste for ya in case it is the second:
True or False?
During a traffic stop a citizen is lawfully obligated to dislose he/she is armed.
During a traffic stop a citizen is lawfully obligated to surrender his/her firearm.
See that part where you said "lawfully"? CLUE<===== Print it out and put it in you pocket so you have one, because saying that word indeed does mean you are seeking LEGAL advice. Your questions even including the first one can not be answered like you requested because both answers are correct.
First question: You do not have to voluntarily disclose, however if asked you MUST disclose. Both true and false and legal advice all at the same time.
The second question: No, you do not have to comply with a law enforcement officers request to surrender your gun, you do however have to surrender your gun if the officer demands (orders it) as long as that demand is legal (a lawful order) so again the answer is both true and false it is actually VERY specific to the language the officer uses in the conversation as well as your own language not to mention your overall demeanor which courts have ruled that while an officer may not say "you were acting weird" to account for PC, he may indeed say "avoided eye contact" "conducted himself in a nervous manner""stuttered while speaking" "gave evasive or inapplicable answers to questions" "kept looking at the trunk of his car" "was sweating a lot on a cool evening" all of which are indications you may well be lying to him, aka breaking the law as it is indeed illegal to lie to a police officer which means he now has PC.
So while you may well not be bright enough to understand you did ask for legal advice may well mean you do not understand what I just typed either but to make it a lot more simple:
It is not legal for an officer to ever take possession of you or your property without cause that shift from no cause to cause can be the use of literally 1 word or even almost just your facial expressions alone can change the answer from no he can't to yes he indeed can and no other law that has been quoted and discussed here changes that, your asking a legal question that has so many loop holes that it is only specific on a case by case basis and it is so full of hazards only a lawyer can answer and then only on THAT SPECIFIC CASE. You may think you can explain away the sweating (you have the flu) so the officer had no right to use that, the officer does not know that and even if you tell him if he thinks you are lying about it, it is still PC for him to legally seize the weapon.
I doubt I helped you out much cause I was rude about it sitting upon my high horse, but at least I know that some other newbie like yourself is not going to read it and take a very bad approach and say "You can't take my gun, I can resist an illegal seizure of my weapon, I saw it on the internet" when they take the legal advice dolled out in this thread seriously to an incredibly vague question that has no correct answer, you know, like the ones trolls ask.
If my opinion that you might be a troll offends you, I suggest instead of running your mouth at me (something known to just get more unwanted abuse) perhaps you should try and reword your questions so they are not similar to ones trolls ask.
Folks are already saying how great the advice is, how great the information in this thread is and as I said before, I respect a lot of the sources of the information and a lot of it has merit for SOME situations but one wrong verb used by the person being addressed by the officer that triggers PC, all of the advice is instantly WRONG and if the person continues on the path of thinking it is right while involved in that kind of situation thinking that could get them into a serious amount of extra trouble just because they believed it.
Like it or don't like it, agree or disagree I do not care, wanna check it for merit print it and ask your own lawyer who is right, you or the rude ego guy on a high horse, now buzzz offf.
Just a heads up.