Thundar
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There was a lot of emotion expended on the Ryan Frederick case, and the shooting of Detective Shivers in the Virginia forum. I, for one, am very concerned about what this case means for my police department (I live in Chesapeake) and for our right to defend ourselves.
We obviously do not have all of the facts yet, but every fact so far revealed by the Chesapeake P.D., the media, the attorneys or the court papers only appear to bolster what we heard from Ryan Frederick's jail house interview,that he was defending himself from a home invasion.
The handling of this case by the Chesapeake P.D. seems to be a text book case in how not to do it. The latest: The informant had a grudge against Ryan Frederick. The informant was arrested two days before the home assault It appears the police madea deal with the informant. The police reneged on their deal with the informant. The informant has fled and now has 5 fugitive warrants issued in Chesapeake. The Chesapeake Police, as usual, refuse to comment.
Keep your eye on this case. We don't have all of the facts yet, but itis starting to stink.
I live in Chesapeake and I can tell you that this case has a very bad feel to it. That "feel"is the Chesapeake PD persecuting a gun-owner who was trying to defend himself, in order to divert criticism from theirmistakes Please understand that when I saymistakes I speak not of the fallen officer, but of the police administration that put Detective Shivers on that doorstep, the behavior of the department in investigating and the horrible (and always changing) public information mess.
Here is the first information about the informant from the press:
Link: NewsChannel Three has learned that informant is now a wanted man...on the run from the law.
In January, that informant told police that Frederick was growing pot at his house. That he saw a scale, packaging items, grow lights and marijuana plants. On January 17th, police broke through the front door of Frederick's Portlock home executing a search warrant for those drugs based on that tip. Frederick opened fire, saying he did not know it was police bursting through his door. He said he thought it was an intruder breaking in because he recently had had someone stealing from his home. In the end, Shivers would die and police would find only a small misdemeanor stash of pot inside. Frederick now sits behind bars charged with first degree murder.
So who is the informant who set off this tragic chain of events? Who is the informant who led police to raid the home of a soda-delivery man with nothing more than a speeding ticket on his record? According to the affidavit for the search warrant that informant is the only source for the raid. There were no corroborating confidential informants. There was no surveillance. There were no undercover dope buys. So who was the sole source for police?
NewsChannel Three has learned he's a 20-year-old with a troubled employment record, who's character has been questioned by multiple sources, and who has a criminal record.
NewsChannel Three has his full name and even has a mug shot, but we are only identifying him by his first name, Steven, because police tell us they are certainly not going to confirm a police informant's name to a reporter.
But in letters to his family, Ryan Frederick identifies Steven as the "confidential informant." Frederick knew him. Stevenwas dating the sister of Frederick's fiance. Family members tell NewsChannel Three that Frederick accused Steven of stealing something from Frederick's home. Steven got mad and threatened to come back to Frederick's house.
According to multiple sources, Steven worked at Bullies, a Chesapeake restaurant and bar. The owner tells NewsChannel Three that Steven was fired...not once, but twice. The second time came after he had threatened to burn the owner. In fact, according to court records, the owner charged Steven with trespassing and had to take him to court to get him to stop coming in the bar.
According to court records, Steven also has a criminal history. He was arrested on January 15th for grand larceny for stealing a woman's credit cards in Chesapeake. He was also charged with credit card fraud for trying to use those credit cards. Two days after that arrest, police would make the raid on Frederick's home. Did Steven tell police about a possible drug stash in Frederick's home in exchange for dropping his charges? We don't know. But, a few months later, that grand larceny charge WAS dismissed. Those credit card charges WERE nolle prosequi or set aside. That was April.
Now Newschannel Three has learned that those charges have recently resurfaced, in the form of direct indictments. Steven was supposed to be in court last week to face those charges. He was a no show. Now a judge has issued a capias for Steven's arrest. He's listed as a fugitive five times over in Chesapeake court records.
We went to the address listed in those court documents. It's his parents' condo. Steven's father told us he had no idea where Steven is. He said he didn't think Steven would want to talk to a reporter about his knowledge of Ryan Frederick and closed the door on us.
Ryan Frederick's preliminary hearing on first degree murder is less than two weeks away.
There was a lot of emotion expended on the Ryan Frederick case, and the shooting of Detective Shivers in the Virginia forum. I, for one, am very concerned about what this case means for my police department (I live in Chesapeake) and for our right to defend ourselves.
We obviously do not have all of the facts yet, but every fact so far revealed by the Chesapeake P.D., the media, the attorneys or the court papers only appear to bolster what we heard from Ryan Frederick's jail house interview,that he was defending himself from a home invasion.
The handling of this case by the Chesapeake P.D. seems to be a text book case in how not to do it. The latest: The informant had a grudge against Ryan Frederick. The informant was arrested two days before the home assault It appears the police madea deal with the informant. The police reneged on their deal with the informant. The informant has fled and now has 5 fugitive warrants issued in Chesapeake. The Chesapeake Police, as usual, refuse to comment.
Keep your eye on this case. We don't have all of the facts yet, but itis starting to stink.
I live in Chesapeake and I can tell you that this case has a very bad feel to it. That "feel"is the Chesapeake PD persecuting a gun-owner who was trying to defend himself, in order to divert criticism from theirmistakes Please understand that when I saymistakes I speak not of the fallen officer, but of the police administration that put Detective Shivers on that doorstep, the behavior of the department in investigating and the horrible (and always changing) public information mess.
Here is the first information about the informant from the press:
Link: NewsChannel Three has learned that informant is now a wanted man...on the run from the law.
In January, that informant told police that Frederick was growing pot at his house. That he saw a scale, packaging items, grow lights and marijuana plants. On January 17th, police broke through the front door of Frederick's Portlock home executing a search warrant for those drugs based on that tip. Frederick opened fire, saying he did not know it was police bursting through his door. He said he thought it was an intruder breaking in because he recently had had someone stealing from his home. In the end, Shivers would die and police would find only a small misdemeanor stash of pot inside. Frederick now sits behind bars charged with first degree murder.
So who is the informant who set off this tragic chain of events? Who is the informant who led police to raid the home of a soda-delivery man with nothing more than a speeding ticket on his record? According to the affidavit for the search warrant that informant is the only source for the raid. There were no corroborating confidential informants. There was no surveillance. There were no undercover dope buys. So who was the sole source for police?
NewsChannel Three has learned he's a 20-year-old with a troubled employment record, who's character has been questioned by multiple sources, and who has a criminal record.
NewsChannel Three has his full name and even has a mug shot, but we are only identifying him by his first name, Steven, because police tell us they are certainly not going to confirm a police informant's name to a reporter.
But in letters to his family, Ryan Frederick identifies Steven as the "confidential informant." Frederick knew him. Stevenwas dating the sister of Frederick's fiance. Family members tell NewsChannel Three that Frederick accused Steven of stealing something from Frederick's home. Steven got mad and threatened to come back to Frederick's house.
According to multiple sources, Steven worked at Bullies, a Chesapeake restaurant and bar. The owner tells NewsChannel Three that Steven was fired...not once, but twice. The second time came after he had threatened to burn the owner. In fact, according to court records, the owner charged Steven with trespassing and had to take him to court to get him to stop coming in the bar.
According to court records, Steven also has a criminal history. He was arrested on January 15th for grand larceny for stealing a woman's credit cards in Chesapeake. He was also charged with credit card fraud for trying to use those credit cards. Two days after that arrest, police would make the raid on Frederick's home. Did Steven tell police about a possible drug stash in Frederick's home in exchange for dropping his charges? We don't know. But, a few months later, that grand larceny charge WAS dismissed. Those credit card charges WERE nolle prosequi or set aside. That was April.
Now Newschannel Three has learned that those charges have recently resurfaced, in the form of direct indictments. Steven was supposed to be in court last week to face those charges. He was a no show. Now a judge has issued a capias for Steven's arrest. He's listed as a fugitive five times over in Chesapeake court records.
We went to the address listed in those court documents. It's his parents' condo. Steven's father told us he had no idea where Steven is. He said he didn't think Steven would want to talk to a reporter about his knowledge of Ryan Frederick and closed the door on us.
Ryan Frederick's preliminary hearing on first degree murder is less than two weeks away.