paul said:
No, you said 30-40 feet. According to the Teuler drill, 21 feet is about the limit before you need to make a shoot/no shoot decision if they are running at you.
Semi-nitpick...
The
Tueller Drill says that if you wait until they're at 21', you might be able to hit them with one shot.
The amount of time it takes to close 21' at a run is about the same amount of time it takes to get a grip, draw, do some slight aiming, & fire.
So make that decision before they get that close.
paul said:
you turned a verbal altercation to one involving firearms.
This.
If you really wanted to protect yourself & your wife, why did you escalate the situation?
The safer (but obviously harder) thing to do would be to keep an eye on them but keep your mouth shut.
Or even warn them to stay away, you will defend yourself... with no swearing.
newbie said:
my question was not to justifie me pulling the gun or my actions.
Sorry, that seems to be the way everyone read
your initial question:
"
Now was I in the wrong or right?"
And the word is "justify".
I did what I had to do. Cuss words or not.
Also in the heat of the [strike]monument[/strike] moment I don't think anyone of you will stop and say "hey sit. I don't like that"
I think that a lot of people who have posted here are more level-headed & mature, & would do whatever they could (
including swallowing their pride/ego) to
avoid escalating a problem to the point where deadly force enters the picture.
And while you don't have to address the punks respectfully, what you did was in nobody's imagination anywhere close to de-escalating.
Did you ever stop to think (
apparently not) that by being calm & solid (
for lack of a better term) you would be not responding as they thought you should, & that might have thrown their confidence & made them hesitate to attack you?
The calm confident demeanor of "I can protect myself" throws people.
If you're not reacting the way the predators expect, they're going to know something is wrong (from their point of view).
You might want to google ["monkey dance" violence] & learn about social violence.
The
group monkey dance.
Violence
dynamics.
And an essay on
unpredictable violence.
And are you guys really that ****** of men that you won't stick up for your wife's?
She must consider you guys real winners.
Stick up for their wife's what?
Speaking as a woman, I'd prefer someone who has the common sense & maturity to AVOID a problem, or at least avoid making it worse, rather than someone who is so hot-headed he'll pick a fight or escalate a situation.
The married men on this forum whom I've met in person I think would care for their wives enough to want to keep them out of danger if at all possible.
let's all drop the shocked act I pulled a gun and put it at my side.
I don't think any of us is upset about you stopping what was shaping up to be a 3-on-1 beatdown.
The problem was that you didn't do what you could to avoid or de-escalate it.
An I'd take that 80$ disorderly conduct ticket anyday to teach a few punks a lesson about talking **** to a stranger.
I suggest you grow up & lose the attitude before you carry again, or it's possible that child your new wife is going to have will grow up visiting you in prison.
And I suggest you learn the laws before you make any more bad decisions.
DC is not a forfeiture.
947.01 Disorderly conduct.
(1) Whoever, in a public or private place, engages in violent, abusive, indecent, profane, boisterous, unreasonably loud or otherwise disorderly conduct under circumstances in which the conduct tends to cause or provoke a disturbance is guilty of a
Class B misdemeanor.
939.51 Classification of misdemeanors.
(3) Penalties for misdemeanors are as follows:
(b) For a Class B misdemeanor, a fine not to exceed $1,000 or imprisonment not to exceed 90 days, or both.
