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Taurus850CIA wrote:
DanM wrote:
Your point of view is predicated on the premise that this is some highly publicized deal.
No, it's not. I understand perfectly that MOC would be responsible for spreading the word and publicizing the "event". It would be word of mouth, posters tacked up on cork boards, cross posting on other forums, emails, etc.
Ok, I understand what you're saying there, and if you had said that, my response wouldprobably not haveinvolved examination ofthat statement's premise.My response about your premise applies not to what you describe above with respect to our get-togethers, but to what you described before which is significantly different than what you describe above. What you described before with respect to our get-togethers impliedsome kind ofequivalence to bikers joining in on causes for "the children", the ones of which I knowof are very highly publicized national or state-widecampaigns. What you describe above is "word of mouth, posters tacked up on cork boards, postings on other forums, emails, etc." The two are WIDELYdifferent on the publicity scale. You changed your premise on the scale of publicity down to a MUCH lower level, therefore my criticism of your former premise does not apply.
For now, MOC is not a government recognized entity, and can't take monetary donations in the traditional sense, therefore your wish for the donation to this site can't be recognized (I understand also that another group could take the donation).
I know that. I didn't say donations to MOC can be done now. This potential fundraisermayoccur
some time in the future. MOC's legitimate ability to accept donations will occur
some time in the future. My original suggestion, in fact, covers this. Maybe you missed it, so let me quote myself for you: "I don't know at what stage of development it[the MOC non-profit]will be at, at the time of the proposed fundraiser, and if it could accept donations, but check with Venator."
When peanut proposed the idea, I saw it as an opportunity for the group to go out and do something good for another cause in the public eye, akin to trash and graffitti cleanups, something that will show others that we ARE, in fact, decent people, with concerns other than holding tightly to our guns. I understand your point, DanM, and this is just my opinion, however outside the box it may be.
I agree with your ideas about some possible activities we could get into, and I think they're really good ideas too, but here again I have a strongdisagreement with another of yourpremises:thatthere is a priority to"show others that we ARE, in fact, decent people, with concerns other than holding tightly to our guns." I have no evidence that indicates to me that any significant portion of our society, other thanpeople who are gun-hatersand gun-banners already and will never be convinced of anything else otherwise, do NOT currently view gun owners and their organizations as a decent part of our society and concerned and involvedrightly in their specific area of interest.
