Seattle Hempfest 2014: Part I. No guns allowed

[EMNofSeattle]

In my experience, most post smokers understand the value of rights as a concept (having seen theirs violated daily) and defend more of them with more consistency and integrity than I've ever seen you demonstrate in the same vein.

Sounds like the woman on CNN years ago who couldn't understand why bush won because she knew no one who voted for him, your circle of people is selected by you to a large degree

 

[marshaul]

Sounds like the woman on CNN years ago who couldn't understand why bush won because she knew no one who voted for him, your circle of people is selected by you to a large degree

Perhaps. Even so, I wasn't suggesting that the pot smokers I know were as good as the non-pot-smokers I know on rights overall, I was suggesting they are better than the average non-pot-smoker. It would seem that any selection bias would apply equally to both groups, since I don't select my friends with preference to either group.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

Read the comment I quoted, it specified drunk and high drivers, which ranks over 15 thousand deaths every year, and was much much higher before the "false security" brought on by cracking down on drunk drivers

So you support banning alcohol and drugs because it reduces fatalities.

By the same logic, reducing deaths from firearms is enough justification to ban guns.

Try again.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

EMN was told they are bad by the authorities so they must be bad....

 

[cpgrad08]

And you know who helps chip away at gun right? The type of people who attend hempfest. I'll bet the ones who do vote vote for Ed Murray, and sawant, and the whole crew who wants gun bans. Look, most gun rights people voted for their stupid initiative and they decide to ban lawful carry at their event.. You want to smoke pot then smoke it and leave me alone problem is most pot users the only right they support are pot and gay marriage. Really if we were living in brave new world they would be perfectly happy

Both which are not rights, the same goes straight marriages as well.

 

[marshaul]

Both which are not rights, the same goes straight marriages as well.

Rights are not such because of their enumeration in the Constitution. Rights are rights because they do not limit the equivalent liberty of another. This undoubtedly applies to both pot-smoking and getting married to a (consenting) person of any gender.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

Both which are not rights, the same goes straight marriages as well.

So you're a statist? Believing that the STATE should dictate who cohabitants together and form a family, and what people put into their body (like the NY sugar ban)

Pro-freedom, or pro-oppression.

 

[marshaul]

So you're a statist? Believing that the STATE should dictate who cohabitants together and form a family, and what people put into their body (like the NY sugar ban)

Pro-freedom, or pro-oppression.

Gently, Dave. Gently.

His is a common misperception, one for which he is not wholly to blame.

 

[The Truth]

Dave and Marshaul maybe you guys should consider a legal union of some type. You seem to work well together!

Totally kidding, I respect and agree with both of your points of view.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

Gently, Dave. Gently.

His is a common misperception, one for which he is not wholly to blame.

He is an adult, with a semi-functional brain.

He is 100% at fault for his pro-oppression opinions and value system.

100%

 

[Dave_pro2a]

Both which are not rights, the same goes straight marriages as well.

Srsly bro? U don't know how our gov is supposed to work.

WHAT RIGHT DOES THE GOVERNMENT HAVE to tell any person what they can or cannot put into their body. Name the source of that 'Government right!'

WHAT RIGHT DOES THE GOVERNMENT HAVE to tell any person what gender they cannot enter a union with? Name the source of that 'Government right!'

Try.

 

[TexasOC]

 

[TexasOC]

+1000

 

[The Truth]

Did you just give yourself 1,000 points?

 

[TexasOC]

Did you just give yourself 1,000 points?

I don't play by the rules. [emoji6]

 

[marshaul]

I don't play by the rules. [emoji6]

+1000

 

[The Truth]

 

[Dave_pro2a]

I don't want to be a gay married dude protecting MJ plants with guns.

But what effing Right do I have to tell him he can't be one.

What right does the State or Federal government have to tell him he can't be one?

Still waiting for the pro-oppression people to give a somewhat intelligent response (and non-hypocritical). I'm probably asking for too much.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

EMN was told they are bad by the authorities so they must be bad....

I don't think the authorities have any complicity in the family history of alcoholism.... Or the history of drug abuse friends of mine have experienced....

@rapgood. I did not call all marijuana users losers, I called hempfest loser fest, if you care to know why, I went years ago and people all gave off the impression and some outright said they were on public assistance or parental money ... One even wanted the government to pay for his pot... Hence the cynicism of the people who attend

 

[TexasOC]

I don't want to be a gay married dude protecting MJ plants with guns.

But what effing Right do I have to tell him he can't be one.

What right does the State or Federal government have to tell him he can't be one?

Still waiting for the pro-oppression people to give a somewhat intelligent response (and non-hypocritical). I'm probably asking for too much.

You won't get an intelligent response because it doesn't exist. If a man supports one type of freedom but not another, then the only logical conclusion is that he doesn't care about freedom, he only cares about his own interests. These types of people are pro-gun rights simply because they like guns, not because they value freedom or the Constitution.