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.....last one anyway.<snip>I wonder if this is the young man's first experience with alcohol.
.....last one anyway.<snip>I wonder if this is the young man's first experience with alcohol.
He walked past a man with a gun who had warned him to stop both verbally and by firing his weapon? At that point I have to think that, besides being wasted, he's been confronted like this before. What was this kid really like to live with? I hope the Sheriff's investigation looks into his home life.
Methinks "little angel" isn't an accurate term.
More Details on That Shooting in Virginia:
The homeowner who shot and killed a teenager who entered his home by mistake early Sunday morning gave verbal warnings to the boy and fired a warning shot, the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office revealed this [Thursday] afternoon... According to the sheriff's office, the homeowner gave verbal warnings and discharged his firearm as a warning after discovering Gordley in his home. When Gordley continued up the home's stairwell and into a hallway, the homeowner discharged his firearm several times. Gordley was struck once in the left rear shoulder after passing the homeowner in the hallway and walking toward an upstairs bedroom where the rest of the family was located. He died at the scene. Sheriff Mike Chapman has said the investigation showed Gordley had no criminal intent when entering the home... (While it's not clear where the homeowner stood when he fired, I'm concerned about the points of impact of the rounds that did not strike the intruder as he headed for the bedroom. For this reason, in this type of home, it is generally wiser to remain upstairs and, if necessary, engage the intruder as he heads up the stairs. I would certainly infer intent to do harm if an intruder headed for an occupied bedroom in my home. As I understand the Old Testament distinction between killing a daytime and a nighttime burglar, the issue was more figurative than literal and refers to the ability to distinguish between mere theft and intent to harm the occupants of the home.)
http://www.leesburgtoday.com/news/s...cle_643db046-925f-11e2-99f5-001a4bcf887a.html
Gordley was struck once in the left rear shoulder after passing the homeowner in the hallway and walking toward an upstairs bedroom where the rest of the family was located.
I would certainly infer intent to do harm if an intruder headed for an occupied bedroom in my home.
The beautiful thing is that PeterNap and I can disagree about the legality of the homeowner's actions. We will both await the conclusion of the legal process to see which one of us was less wrong than the other. (It's never about being "right".)
stay safe.
The (multi-part) question I have is this: Who did he think (or did he even realize that someone) was pointing a gun at him? Did his own father confront him so often in his own home that he became used to it, perhaps because he frequently used the window to enter/exit his own house?
Civil action? Doesn't seem likely. Contributory negligence?
I saw the video, and in fact, I said nearly the same thing here, that they seemed like decent folks. I'm not trying to demonize anyone needlessly, but words have meanings, and I can't read minds. I have to assume they meant the words they said. You could be right, but there is no way to know unless they say more.I just don't see myself asking the strange man pushing past me on his way upstairs to the room where my wife is sleeping at 2:30am with the burglar alarm going off for his ID and an explanation of why he is in my house. Some actions speak for themselves.
As for criticizing the parents "forgiving" the shooter. Give me a break. They are distraught over the loss of their son. They hold no animosity toward the shooter and are trying their best to relay that to him. Could they have chosen a better word, perhaps. I think you are playing semantics....
I'm guessing the shooter, who is probably a very decent man, is beating himself up pretty badly at this point and is thankful for the kids parents for showing some degree of understanding and forgiveness. I saw them on TV reading their statement and thinking to myself that these are really nice people.
IMO this is a alcohol related death, more than anything else. Nobody should get that drunk they do not know their own home. If it had been me he would probably have survived but suffered dog bites from a grouchy old wolf, and protective retriever. My wolf is 16 years old and has no sense of humor whatsoever.
Alcohol kills more people outside of natural causes, especially when taken into consideration that a portion of motor vehicle fatalities are caused by drunks. I wonder if this is the young man's first experience with alcohol.