Really? What Rights do you deny them? Even the government does not deny other Rights to them.
i thought that was already established...not being able to vote, run for office of presidency, etc.
Really? What Rights do you deny them? Even the government does not deny other Rights to them.
not exactly...All persons BORN or NATURALIZED...it doesnt say anything about permanent residency.
It's the last part of Amndt XIV Sect 1 that has been used to extend the meaning beyond citizens, in settled case law:
"..... Nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
It's the last part of Amndt XIV Sect 1 that has been used to extend the meaning beyond citizens, in settled case law:
"..... Nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
what do you mean?There is a reason why the word "protection" is used and not "application" or another more generic word.
which would include children and 18y old us citizens
Um, I would not conflate those with Rights.i thought that was already established...not being able to vote, run for office of presidency, etc.
agreed. i just think it should be the other way around. adults first and then non-citizensNo argument here,
I'm still not sure why some believe that because one group (>18s) are denied a constitutional right, it justifies denying the same right to another group. By strengthen and affirming one group's right, we strengthen our own.
Um, I would not conflate those with Rights.
u wouldnt consider voting to be a right!!!!????
agreed. i just think it should be the other way around. adults first and then non-citizens
I think they should be able to. If I remember correctly I could be wrong but a Canadian guy who was on this forum, said they used to be able to get Utah permit. And carry were allowed.
It's not a right that is enshrined in the original Bill of Rights. IE Amndts I-X.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
In simple form....YES.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
In simple form....YES.
last time i checked, right to bear arms isnt a human right "endowed by our creator"
I would disagree. Certainly 'life' is an unalienable right. My protection of my life is endowed by my Creator and my choice of how I defend my life is unalienable. Governments are instituted among men, but the gift of life by my Creator stands well above any law the government can muster. I will pursue my happiness and my liberty to the ends of this earth. I would expect any visitor to this country (with all due apologies to the natives of North America) to do the same. And until a visitor has done harm to another, I would expect him to be armed at all times. It is indeed his duty to be armed at all times. (credit T.J.)
I would disagree. Certainly 'life' is an unalienable right. My protection of my life is endowed by my Creator and my choice of how I defend my life is unalienable. Governments are instituted among men, but the gift of life by my Creator stands well above any law the government can muster. I will pursue my happiness and my liberty to the ends of this earth. I would expect any visitor to this country (with all due apologies to the natives of North America) to do the same. And until a visitor has done harm to another, I would expect him to be armed at all times. It is indeed his duty to be armed at all times. (credit T.J.)
good luck trying to protect yourself with a rocket launcher, full auto machine guns and claymores. and no no no, thats not how it works, or else everywhere in the world would allow their citizens to have weapons...but they dont
That isn't the Right. It is the Right to self-defense that is the natural Right. RKBA is the extension of it to the tools available for SD.last time i checked, right to bear arms isnt a human right "endowed by our creator"
except that is your interpretation of it and not at all what it means. like i said, if it was a human right, then everyone would already have itSince I did not bring up any of the weapons you mention I will hold your argument as empty. None of those devices are designed to protect life in self defense. They are offensive weapons. Trying to distract is a failed and poor attempt when the argument is lost.
My Creator is where the right to keep and bear arms comes from, no where else.
Not to the level of unalienable Right. Voting is something that requires society. Self-Defense does not.u wouldnt consider voting to be a right!!!!????