deepdiver
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cREbralFIX wrote:
When I use a hemeostat for a hobby project, for me it is a very useful small clamp, regardless of designed purpose. I would argue that in the same vein, I own firearms for the purposes of putting holes in paper, destroying little clay disks and stopping threats, regardless of designed purpose. The only place that it's being a tool for killing comes into play in my world is that the threat, possibility or reality of it being able to cause death is the reason it is useful for stopping threats. The same firearm in the hands of a soldier in a war zone is a tool for killing, the same way the same hemeostat in the hands of a surgeon is a tool for stanching bleeding. Those tools in my hands are for a different purpose, although they are certainly still capable of serving their designed purpose if needed.
cREbralFIX wrote:
I find this debate interesting. While there are firearms clearly not designed to kill anything, such as target shooting firearms, it is true that most firearms are designed with lethality in mind, whether the target is man or beast. I think at some point though it becomes a somewhat philosophical argument as to whether the particular firearm someone has is a tool for killing or putting holes in paper.AbNo wrote:cREbralFIX wrote:
It's a tool for killing.
Keep that in mind.
I beg to differ. It's a tool for putting holes in things.
Be that thing a person or a piece of paper, that's your decision.
You are free to believe that if you wish.
When I use a hemeostat for a hobby project, for me it is a very useful small clamp, regardless of designed purpose. I would argue that in the same vein, I own firearms for the purposes of putting holes in paper, destroying little clay disks and stopping threats, regardless of designed purpose. The only place that it's being a tool for killing comes into play in my world is that the threat, possibility or reality of it being able to cause death is the reason it is useful for stopping threats. The same firearm in the hands of a soldier in a war zone is a tool for killing, the same way the same hemeostat in the hands of a surgeon is a tool for stanching bleeding. Those tools in my hands are for a different purpose, although they are certainly still capable of serving their designed purpose if needed.