DWCook
Activist Member
That's new to me, I have never purchased a firearm from Walmart before. But makes sense on the background check, just never knew they did this actually.
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Some Walmarts refusing to sell ammo on 3rd shift.
- Thread starter okiebryan
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Wal-Mart only has a certain few people that are trained and permitted to process the sale of certain items - consequently not all items are sold 24/7 - ever think about buying a new set of tires there at 4:00 AM? You can't.
It was good that your approval came back so quickly.
Re: they carried the gun out for you. Had a similar situation and politely declined - said that there was no way I'd participate in allowing an unknown, potentially unqualified person to have possession of any firearm, and were they refusing to give me possession of my property? They were not excessively happy, but I did not have to go through the embarrassment of being escorted out. We did part as friends though.
Bet you didn't know that a video record of your gun purchase was made and will be retained - the path to that leads directly to Bloomberg and Wal_Mart's agreement to do just that.
Yep - background check for long guns too.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/general-information/fact-sheet
Jack House
Regular Member
If they have to do a NICS check by phone, the NICS offices close for 7 hours a day. That could be why. Pretty sure we could still sell to people after hours if they had a CHL. But I don't know, because we never got our training material, let alone any guns. I had been talking to one of the co-managers about getting the training that would allow me to sell guns to CHL holders at night. But as I said, our store never got any training materials or guns.
We advertise guns all the time, did so during Black Friday too. Someone should sue for bait and switch.
We advertise guns all the time, did so during Black Friday too. Someone should sue for bait and switch.
Redbaron007
Regular Member
Not to split hairs with you, but, well, actually you can buy tires anytime; they just won't mount them for you at 4 am.
You may not have the best service either. I bought some for my daughter's car two years ago at 11 p.m......fortunately I already knew what I wanted; she had to come back and get them mounted the next day. The clerk/dept assit mgr was clueless except ringing up the transaction.Not to split hairs with you, but, well, actually you can buy tires anytime; they just won't mount them for you at 4 am.
Last time I looked in the Wal-Mart near me, the tires were in a service department area which was closed/locked after a certain hour.
Do they really sell Chinese tires there?
Jack House
Regular Member
Just because a department is roped off, does not always mean that you can not buy anything from that department. Just means that you need to find someone that can get what you want out of that department. At my store, the sporting goods guy is also the automotive guy.
I don't know of a store anywhere that doesn't record me buying something so I'm not too concerned. I was being sarcastic on should I be upset. If it was after 10 they would have lost my impulse purchase, but I wouldn't care or get upset. I'm pretty sure I've bought ammo after 10 but can't vouch for that.
Wal-mart refused to sell me super glue after 1am once which did upset me because I'm not a huffer and had to fix something, however I just bought fake fingernails which come with ... wait for it .. superglue!!.
My wife's KMART won't sell camping supplies (like those enamel bowls) to minors ... store policies don't always make sense (like not letting me carry an unloaded disassembles boxed gun but not caring about the loaded gun on my side) but whatever. I have a corporate background so I'm trained in stupidity.
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Redbaron007
Regular Member
Last time I looked in the Wal-Mart near me, the tires were in a service department area which was closed/locked after a certain hour.
Do they really sell Chinese tires there?
In our local stores, they are not locked up; just the service area where they are mounted and balanced.
The tires I've seen have American writings on them.
Gil223
Regular Member
Y'all sure got a lot of mileage out of WalMart's non-Corporate Ammunition Sales Policy. I've shopped Walmarts in 3 states and there has been at least one consistency in the Sporting Goods Department - handgun and rifle ammo is consistently kept under lock and key, and shotgun ammo sits of an open shelf. The only reasonable explanation I could think of for not selling product after a certain time of day would be if that department was not staffed after a certain time. Retail floor hours for chain stores has been tight for a couple of decades now (which explains the relatively large percentage of "regular part-time" employees in places like Wallyworld, Target, J.C. Penney's, etc., working 30 hours a week or less). The practice of having one employee covering more than one department is not uncommon these days.
Nowhere that I have lived yet, requires anything other than payment for ammunition - no phone calls, no forms to fill out, no note from your mom - nothing that the average high school dropout couldn't take care of in a matter of minutes. Take your payment... and if the transaction is really complex, make change! Where is the need for any kind of special "training" to accomplish that? And the purpose of corporate policies of any kind is to ensure that things are done consistently throught the organization. Does the tail wag the dog in WallyWorld? Pax...
Nowhere that I have lived yet, requires anything other than payment for ammunition - no phone calls, no forms to fill out, no note from your mom - nothing that the average high school dropout couldn't take care of in a matter of minutes. Take your payment... and if the transaction is really complex, make change! Where is the need for any kind of special "training" to accomplish that? And the purpose of corporate policies of any kind is to ensure that things are done consistently throught the organization. Does the tail wag the dog in WallyWorld? Pax...
Most retail outlets control who is approved to open locked cases. I'm also reasonably certain that Wall-Mart only allows particular personal to assist with ammo as I have had one employee tell me, "Let me get you someone that works in this department."
Bottom line - I think the big dogs (corp. 1st, then mgr) rule.
Jack House
Regular Member
Only because the someone that works in that department would have the keys to that department. There are no restrictions on who can open the ammo lockups on the sales floor. Unless there is an age restriction for those under 18 that I'm unaware of.
GreatDaneMan
Regular Member
I had a problem last night after buying a private 9mm ... Walmart on Jefferson in Newport News, VA refused said "Not after 10". They were radioing through a janitor at 11pm so I wasnt going to cause a ruckus in the poor mans night, he was already in a bad mood. I worked for the giant two years ago, not out to make matters worse for the people on the store end.
I went to the Chesapeake Square walmart in Chesapeake, Va at midnight and found some 9mm, and two more than happy employees that were ready willing and able to sell ammo. I was rang up at nearby electronics and told the manager that was helping me about the 9,10,11,midnight rules that pop up when someone is too lazy at other walmarts... He said "Yeah I know, I wish we didnt have that problem, if it was up to me they would be canned.". I thanked him with a handshake and a good night. I forgot to take names.
I advise everyone looking to buy to head to the nearby electronics area first, because they usually have someone on post 24/7. They can phone for someone, and a manager seems to always be hanging around that area(i know this from other walmart problems). That way you dont have to relay through someone who really cant help you, even if they would like to.
I went to the Chesapeake Square walmart in Chesapeake, Va at midnight and found some 9mm, and two more than happy employees that were ready willing and able to sell ammo. I was rang up at nearby electronics and told the manager that was helping me about the 9,10,11,midnight rules that pop up when someone is too lazy at other walmarts... He said "Yeah I know, I wish we didnt have that problem, if it was up to me they would be canned.". I thanked him with a handshake and a good night. I forgot to take names.
I advise everyone looking to buy to head to the nearby electronics area first, because they usually have someone on post 24/7. They can phone for someone, and a manager seems to always be hanging around that area(i know this from other walmart problems). That way you dont have to relay through someone who really cant help you, even if they would like to.
Jack House
Regular Member
The problem isn't laziness, the problem is that managers see customers as more of an annoyance, especially at night. The priority of the managers is getting everything done on time and if a customer leaves annoyed, oh well.
Chances are, if the person saying no had a radio, it was a manager. The reason is almost guaranteed to be that the manager just doesn't want the Sporting Goods guy to have to stop what he is doing to help you. I've seen it a dozen times, managers denying service for the sole reason that it'd be slightly inconvenient otherwise.
For instance as long as there is a manager at the store, they can do returns regardless of what time it is. There is no policy that limits returns to certain hours(atleast that I know of). When they refuse to do a return it is more often than not because they don't want to 'waste' time on the customer. Although there are other reasons too, such as a shady customer or a difficult return that they simply don't have the experience to handle.
One of my supervisors hated doing returns and would often times chew us out for doing one or simply tell us to say no, her reasons were that she was more concerned about getting everything done before whatever arbitrary and impossible deadline we were handed that night.
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Chances are, if the person saying no had a radio, it was a manager. The reason is almost guaranteed to be that the manager just doesn't want the Sporting Goods guy to have to stop what he is doing to help you. I've seen it a dozen times, managers denying service for the sole reason that it'd be slightly inconvenient otherwise.
For instance as long as there is a manager at the store, they can do returns regardless of what time it is. There is no policy that limits returns to certain hours(atleast that I know of). When they refuse to do a return it is more often than not because they don't want to 'waste' time on the customer. Although there are other reasons too, such as a shady customer or a difficult return that they simply don't have the experience to handle.
One of my supervisors hated doing returns and would often times chew us out for doing one or simply tell us to say no, her reasons were that she was more concerned about getting everything done before whatever arbitrary and impossible deadline we were handed that night.
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