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State Police interaction
- Thread starter protias
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Master Doug Huffman
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FOIA! Who suggested that they visit you? Any and all communications containing your name, the names of the DoT cops or from DoT to SO today.
FOIA! Who suggested that they visit you? Any and all communications containing your name, the names of the DoT cops or from DoT to SO today.
Wisconsin Carry Inc. - Chairman
Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
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Protias, did they say who called you in? It wouldn't surprise me at all if a call came from the State Patrol... The trooper who came flying into the China Wok seemed to have a real personal problem with a citizen going about their law-abiding business.
He may not have let it go there...
Please keep us informed.
Also, for anyone that hasn't, these updates go out on twitter. (and this one did today) please visit www.twitter.com/wisconsincarry and sign up for updates. You'll get a text message to your cell phone the instant something like this happens.
Protias, did they say who called you in? It wouldn't surprise me at all if a call came from the State Patrol... The trooper who came flying into the China Wok seemed to have a real personal problem with a citizen going about their law-abiding business.
He may not have let it go there...
Please keep us informed.
Also, for anyone that hasn't, these updates go out on twitter. (and this one did today) please visit www.twitter.com/wisconsincarry and sign up for updates. You'll get a text message to your cell phone the instant something like this happens.
Master Doug Huffman
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There is no formal protocol. Here, read this...gimme a minute.... read the attachment Section VI The Request.
There is no formal protocol. Here, read this...gimme a minute.... read the attachment Section VI The Request.
bnhcomputing
Founder's Club Member
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I agree with Doug. You need to submit an open records request to both the State Patrol and the County Sheriff for all documents, emails, reports, phone calls, etc between February 14 and 17 pertaining to your name and/or address and/or license number.
As for the concept of an OC walk as suggested on other threads, Sussex is IT, and the Date is Saturday. We can do some Shopping at the local WalMart, Kohls, Shopko,etc. while we are at it.
The time and place was NOT of our choosing, but we will stand with you.
Are the rest of you guys with me? Can we get 25 to 30 or more like we did in Racine last fall?
Will you answer the call for one of our own?
I agree with Doug. You need to submit an open records request to both the State Patrol and the County Sheriff for all documents, emails, reports, phone calls, etc between February 14 and 17 pertaining to your name and/or address and/or license number.
As for the concept of an OC walk as suggested on other threads, Sussex is IT, and the Date is Saturday. We can do some Shopping at the local WalMart, Kohls, Shopko,etc. while we are at it.
The time and place was NOT of our choosing, but we will stand with you.
Are the rest of you guys with me? Can we get 25 to 30 or more like we did in Racine last fall?
Will you answer the call for one of our own?
Master Doug Huffman
Banned
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State Department of Transportation employees should be well aware of the various Attorney General policy memos. Consider FOIA training on the memos/legally armed citizen policies
As I recall from the Open Records Law, there is no limit on what you can request.
State Department of Transportation employees should be well aware of the various Attorney General policy memos. Consider FOIA training on the memos/legally armed citizen policies
As I recall from the Open Records Law, there is no limit on what you can request.
Landose_theghost
Regular Member
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bnhcomputing wrote:
-Landose-
bnhcomputing wrote:
I concur, lets bring the pressure, and lets bring it soon. 30+ ppl OC'n ought 2 showem they cannot Eff with law abiding citizens. This whole situation is $hit IMO. I'll be there forsure with a few fellow OC'rs.
-Landose-
Master Doug Huffman
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It's not like poor old 66.0409 with no teeth and no daddy. The DA is Ch. 19's daddy!
XIII. Enforcement and Penalties.
A. Mandamus. If an authority withholds a record or part of a record, or delays granting
access to a record or part of a record after a written request for disclosure is made,
the requester may:
1. Bring an action for mandamus asking a court to order release of the record;
or
2. Submit a written request to the district attorney of the county where the
record is located or to the Attorney General requesting that an action for
mandamus be brought asking the court to order release of the record to the
requester.
Wis. Stat. § 19.37(1). Mandamus procedures are set forth in Chapters 781 and
783 of the Wisconsin Statutes.
B. A request must be made in writing before a mandamus action to enforce the request
is commenced. Wis. Stat. § 19.35(1)(h).
It's not like poor old 66.0409 with no teeth and no daddy. The DA is Ch. 19's daddy!
XIII. Enforcement and Penalties.
A. Mandamus. If an authority withholds a record or part of a record, or delays granting
access to a record or part of a record after a written request for disclosure is made,
the requester may:
1. Bring an action for mandamus asking a court to order release of the record;
or
2. Submit a written request to the district attorney of the county where the
record is located or to the Attorney General requesting that an action for
mandamus be brought asking the court to order release of the record to the
requester.
Wis. Stat. § 19.37(1). Mandamus procedures are set forth in Chapters 781 and
783 of the Wisconsin Statutes.
B. A request must be made in writing before a mandamus action to enforce the request
is commenced. Wis. Stat. § 19.35(1)(h).
Shotgun
Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
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Undercover cars.... right. That could be said about any car.
An unmarked car is one thing... and an undercover is another. No undercover car worth a crap is going to look anything like a cop car with antennas, etc.
They ought to read the law. Impersonating an officer means to intentionally mislead others into thinking you are an LEO. By their standards, apparently, they could go after anyone who drives a Crown Vic.
Undercover cars.... right. That could be said about any car.
An unmarked car is one thing... and an undercover is another. No undercover car worth a crap is going to look anything like a cop car with antennas, etc.
They ought to read the law. Impersonating an officer means to intentionally mislead others into thinking you are an LEO. By their standards, apparently, they could go after anyone who drives a Crown Vic.
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bnhcomputing wrote:
Starbucks
N65W24950 Main Street
Sussex, WI 53089
Kohl's
N66w25101 Silver Spring Dr.
Sussex, WI
George Webb
N65 W24838 Main St.
Sussex, WI
China Wok
N65W24838 Main St.
Sussex, WI
McDonald's
W249 N6522 Hwy 164
Sussex, WI
These are all within a half mile. We shall start with breakfast at 9AM at Starbucks.
bnhcomputing wrote:
Starbucks
N65W24950 Main Street
Sussex, WI 53089
Kohl's
N66w25101 Silver Spring Dr.
Sussex, WI
George Webb
N65 W24838 Main St.
Sussex, WI
China Wok
N65W24838 Main St.
Sussex, WI
McDonald's
W249 N6522 Hwy 164
Sussex, WI
These are all within a half mile. We shall start with breakfast at 9AM at Starbucks.
J.Gleason
Banned
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This is a clear case of harassment by the trooper and local LEO's. Don't let them intimidate you.
Continue video taping every encounter and don't forget porcupine411 if you need it. It is a great recorder and it is free.
File Open Records Requests on both encounters as there has to be some form of communication between the trooper and the locals.
Get all of the info you can and file a suit for harassment and infringement of your rights for the incident at the restaurant. Make sure you talk to the owners and get them on your side. I am sure you probably spend more money there then the troopers do. In fact find out if those troopers are excepting any complimentary items from the owners and turn them in for abuse of authority. Hit them hard and hit them fast. Let them know you mean business.
Do not let them in your home for any reason or your vehicle. Refuse all searches and do not give them any information at all. Make sure you OC at every opportunity. If they are watching you will know it.
Might be a good idea to talk to John Monroe on this one.
This is a clear case of harassment by the trooper and local LEO's. Don't let them intimidate you.
Continue video taping every encounter and don't forget porcupine411 if you need it. It is a great recorder and it is free.
File Open Records Requests on both encounters as there has to be some form of communication between the trooper and the locals.
Get all of the info you can and file a suit for harassment and infringement of your rights for the incident at the restaurant. Make sure you talk to the owners and get them on your side. I am sure you probably spend more money there then the troopers do. In fact find out if those troopers are excepting any complimentary items from the owners and turn them in for abuse of authority. Hit them hard and hit them fast. Let them know you mean business.
Do not let them in your home for any reason or your vehicle. Refuse all searches and do not give them any information at all. Make sure you OC at every opportunity. If they are watching you will know it.
Might be a good idea to talk to John Monroe on this one.
AaronS
Regular Member
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protias wrote:
I'm in for a Saturday lunch. Just let me know the time and place. I can't stand this kind of stuff from OUR cops...
Oh, and your car does not look like any cop car I have ever seen in this state. Looks like a ham radio set (scanner) and CB to me. And your gun just shows that you care.
protias wrote:
I'm in for a Saturday lunch. Just let me know the time and place. I can't stand this kind of stuff from OUR cops...
Oh, and your car does not look like any cop car I have ever seen in this state. Looks like a ham radio set (scanner) and CB to me. And your gun just shows that you care.
BROKENSPROKET
Regular Member
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bnhcomputing wrote:
I was following this thread, but passed on posting, until now.
Before BNH blew into the Battle Horn, I was going to say, this is why OC is for law abiding citizens. Once you get their attention, they will find the chink in the armor, if there is one.
That is why, before I started to OC, I had to stop growing marijuana in my basement making moonshine out in the barn, shooting deer from the road any time of the year, and I had toget rid of all the immigrant child labor that I used to run the operationback to their own country.
If that was not bad enough, I had to divorce 2 of my 3 wifes.:what:
All joking aside. I am SOOOO in!
bnhcomputing wrote:
I'm in. This will not be tolerated.
I was following this thread, but passed on posting, until now.
Before BNH blew into the Battle Horn, I was going to say, this is why OC is for law abiding citizens. Once you get their attention, they will find the chink in the armor, if there is one.
That is why, before I started to OC, I had to stop growing marijuana in my basement making moonshine out in the barn, shooting deer from the road any time of the year, and I had toget rid of all the immigrant child labor that I used to run the operationback to their own country.
If that was not bad enough, I had to divorce 2 of my 3 wifes.:what:
All joking aside. I am SOOOO in!
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AaronS wrote:
Just to get a rough estimate: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?invites&eid=309316339646
AaronS wrote:
Lunch, I vote for China Wok and if people aren't up for Chinese, Webbs is 500 feet away.
Just to get a rough estimate: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?invites&eid=309316339646
bnhcomputing
Founder's Club Member
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We will be visiting several businesses throughout the day Saturday. Giving a specific time/place will be difficult.
You can email me: Hubert@WisconsinCarry.org once you get to town, and I will let you know where we are at, or you can PM me ahead of time, I'll give you my cell #, and you can just call to see where we are at.
We will be visiting several businesses throughout the day Saturday. Giving a specific time/place will be difficult.
You can email me: Hubert@WisconsinCarry.org once you get to town, and I will let you know where we are at, or you can PM me ahead of time, I'll give you my cell #, and you can just call to see where we are at.
Master Doug Huffman
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A phone call is sufficient. I'd follow up with a written request.
A phone call is sufficient. I'd follow up with a written request.