I don't support State Sponsored gay marriage. Then again, I don't support State Sponsored Hetro marriage. It's a private and religious commitment. Let's keep it that way (along with any contracts the couple wish to enter into together which the State can enforce like any other contract if need be).
Obviously, I support guns
I don't support State Sponsored gay marriage. Then again, I don't support State Sponsored Hetro marriage. It's a private and religious commitment. Let's keep it that way (along with any contracts the couple wish to enter into together which the State can enforce like any other contract if need be).
Obviously, I support guns
I see nothing wrong with either.
I was hoping people would dwell on the gun part and ignore the gay stuff, but I should have known.
Guns: Good
Gay Marriage: Bad
I don't think this thread is gonna end well if . . .
I was hoping people would dwell on the gun part and ignore the gay stuff, but I should have known.
I don't support State Sponsored gay marriage. Then again, I don't support State Sponsored Hetro marriage. It's a private and religious commitment. Let's keep it that way (along with any contracts the couple wish to enter into together which the State can enforce like any other contract if need be).
Obviously, I support guns
A lot of people would swap those assessments. It's a good thing, then, that we live in a republic instead of a democracy. Democracies sometimes produce "tyranny by the majority". Republics protect individual rights from that. And we all have the individual right to consensually enter into any contract with other individuals. The contract participants can call that contract whatever they want . . . who the hell cares? The state--if it purports to be the arbiter that "keeps the peace"--is there to adjudicate contract disputes.
That is liberty.
Guns: Good
Gay Marriage: just a label for a particular type of contract between consenting adults. I don't care what other people label their contracts. Not my business.
I think if you are among the folks here who are able to express themselves in a civil manner, you have nothing to worry about.
Brian, for perhaps many of us, just under the surface of our personal conviction about fighting for gun rights, is a two-fold question: "Is this my only individual liberty issue, or am I a fighter for general individual liberty? If the latter, is there a limit?"
Any thread that includes "X"-rights along with gun-rights may very well provoke those questions and more discussion of "X"-rights than anything else.
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Brian, for perhaps many of us, just under the surface of our personal conviction about fighting for gun rights, is a two-fold question: "Is this my only individual liberty issue, or am I a fighter for general individual liberty? If the latter, is there a limit?"
Any thread that includes "X"-rights along with gun-rights may very well provoke those questions and more discussion of "X"-rights than anything else.
The article, in a round about way, basically states that people are more aware of how our government is impedeing on our lives.
The increased support for guns doesnt surprise me. As states, like Michigan, are making it more common practice for a citizen to carry. I see more and more citizen support for it and less and less governmental support. That combination can be volatile. Hopefully the .gov will realize its errors before its too late.
Marriage is not a religious contract. It is only so when the joining parties wish it to be. Yeah, most marriages take place in a church, but that does not mean that Jesus invented marriage. It only means that the two people who are being joined believe that there is a higher power that will support their decision. The bible is not the law. The bible does not have authority over the Consititution. Yeah yeah. I know what it says about God in there.
I often find myself wondering how people who support our rights as free americans believe that other people can tell people how to live there lives, and who they can marry and when.
Gay marriage will go the way of womens rights and black rights. It will become common place in this Free Nation. Those are the key words here......Free....Nation.
Anywho, no more soapbox for me.
My point was -- I don't need a government stamp on my contract with the guy down the road to mow my lawn. Why is marriage different? Why does it need government standards/approval?
Let people contract with each other how they wish, call it whatever they wish, and keep government out of it.