CC27
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We can all sit back and do nothing or we can do what I thought This site was intended for.
We can all sit back and do nothing or we can do what I thought This site was intended for.
I have been to shows in Nebraska, Colorado and Kansas, and every single one has a no loaded guns rule, and has a station set up at the door to tag and tie all guns. They don't check your person, so you could probably conceal if you are careful about it. The last sow I was at I had my revo, so I stepped into a bathroom stall, cut the tie (I was able to make it look secured) and kept ammo in my pocket. Not the best of situations, but I was able to browse the show.Before I vote can anyone tell me if WAC is doing anything different from all the other Gun Shows in the Country?
I would not be in favor of singleing out one gun show if all the others have the same policies. Why not a national effort against ALL the Shows that have a No Loaded Carry policies?
Frankly, some of those patronizing the shows I have been to would scare the crap out of me if they were allowed to have a loaded gun in their possession while at the show. Their handling of Unloaded guns is scary enough.
Here in Indiana, you can carry loaded into some shows, certainly not everyone I have been to, but a couple.Before I vote can anyone tell me if WAC is doing anything different from all the other Gun Shows in the Country?
I would not be in favor of singleing out one gun show if all the others have the same policies. Why not a national effort against ALL the Shows that have a No Loaded Carry policies?
Frankly, some of those patronizing the shows I have been to would scare the crap out of me if they were allowed to have a loaded gun in their possession while at the show. Their handling of Unloaded guns is scary enough.
Holy cow.:shock: This has nothing to do with Australia. He asked if they do it at other gun shows around the nation. Last time I checked Australia was not part of our nation nor or the citizens there guaranteed rights under our constitution..We live in Washington so common sense tells me that would be a good place to start. Oh did you know that in Australia they took everybody's guns away, so I guess if they did it here it would be OK because they do it elsewhere.
The amount of spineless, hypocritical people on this site is shocking the hell out of me.
CC27 wrote:Holy cow.:shock: This has nothing to do with Australia. He asked if they do it at other gun shows around the nation. Last time I checked Australia was not part of our nation nor or the citizens there guaranteed rights under our constitution..We live in Washington so common sense tells me that would be a good place to start. Oh did you know that in Australia they took everybody's guns away, so I guess if they did it here it would be OK because they do it elsewhere.
The amount of spineless, hypocritical people on this site is shocking the hell out of me.
Might as well penalize everyone for the stupidity of few, the government does it everyday. Just so everyone is clear this was meant as sarcasm.amlevin wrote:Here in Indiana, you can carry loaded into some shows, certainly not everyone I have been to, but a couple.Before I vote can anyone tell me if WAC is doing anything different from all the other Gun Shows in the Country?
I would not be in favor of singleing out one gun show if all the others have the same policies. Why not a national effort against ALL the Shows that have a No Loaded Carry policies?
Frankly, some of those patronizing the shows I have been to would scare the crap out of me if they were allowed to have a loaded gun in their possession while at the show. Their handling of Unloaded guns is scary enough.
And yes, there are some very unintelligent people when it comes to firearms, last show I was at a guy was showing me a .22 with a scope, pointed it at the entrance of the building where people come in, and told me to take a look, I walked away, granted it is unloaded, but it is just common sense.
A lot of fools out there.
Now that is understandable. I don't think anyone here would say we should accept more strigent laws because another state has them. I do see your point on sending letters to WAC and boycotting thier shows for thier rule.joeroket wrote:CC27 wrote:Holy cow.:shock: This has nothing to do with Australia. He asked if they do it at other gun shows around the nation. Last time I checked Australia was not part of our nation nor or the citizens there guaranteed rights under our constitution..We live in Washington so common sense tells me that would be a good place to start. Oh did you know that in Australia they took everybody's guns away, so I guess if they did it here it would be OK because they do it elsewhere.
The amount of spineless, hypocritical people on this site is shocking the hell out of me.
It's just a comparison. Here's another one you might be able to relate to: Should we accept more stringent gun laws inWA as long as they do not exceed those in other states such a NY? My point is why is it OK just because it is the norm across the nation? I understand the confusion about the Australia analogy. We have a opportunity to try to change something instead of just bitching about it and I feel like nobody is on board. It is making me sick that no one realizes the potential impact of the message WAC is giving by having this rule on the books.
Are you kidding me? Well we might as well just give up the fight now with this attitude.More loaded guns will likely result in more a.d.'s as we all love to play "show and tell".
CC27, Please explain how more loaded gunscould possiblyresult in less a.d.'s. We all want to handle and check out lots of weapons that don't belong to us. How do you know the the seller or the guy handling the particular gun before you didn't slap a loaded mag in it?
You I hope, would immeadiately check it's condition, but Joe average who just picks it up may automatically place his finger on the trigger.
CC27
I have been a Proud WAC Member for many many years. I have no problem with their member ship rules. If you don't like the rules then don't go to the shows and don't become a member. Please don't judge WAC if you have not been a member in good standing. Many of the members are good friends. Many are active service or retired military. Before you pass judgement I would encourage you to participate, get to know the people. before you know it you will be going to every show.
Johnny Law wrote:CC27, Please explain how more loaded gunscould possiblyresult in less a.d.'s. We all want to handle and check out lots of weapons that don't belong to us. How do you know the the seller or the guy handling the particular gun before you didn't slap a loaded mag in it?
You I hope, would immeadiately check it's condition, but Joe average who just picks it up may automatically place his finger on the trigger.
I'm not talking about guns that are for sale. I'm talking about being able to oc or cc a firearm for personal protection and not have to be disarmed at a gun show.
Man, I bet the anti gun nuts reading this love you.
CC27 wrote:Johnny Law wrote:CC27, Please explain how more loaded gunscould possiblyresult in less a.d.'s. We all want to handle and check out lots of weapons that don't belong to us. How do you know the the seller or the guy handling the particular gun before you didn't slap a loaded mag in it?
You I hope, would immeadiately check it's condition, but Joe average who just picks it up may automatically place his finger on the trigger.
I'm not talking about guns that are for sale. I'm talking about being able to oc or cc a firearm for personal protection and not have to be disarmed at a gun show.
Man, I bet the anti gun nuts reading this love you.
It is certainly obvious that you don't like the rule. Are you SURE it is a WAC rule or a rule that has been put on them by their insurance underwriter or the owner of the rental facility (Fairgrounds in the case of Monroe and Puyallup)? To ramble on about boycotting WAC without knowing all the facts is a sign of a bad case of "Cranial Rectal Inversion".
You can't make an effective arguement for change if you don't know where the change needs to be made.
Perhaps someone from WAC can give us some accurate information. Is the rule driven by outside forces (Insurance, Government, Lessor, etc)or is it merely a WAC rule?
CC27, your statement ,"The amount of spineless, hypocritical people on this site is shocking the hell out of me", sure isn't going help you enlist much support on the subject.
How exactly are they getting cut a break? In fact you are holding them to a higher standard than businesses. You are willing to dialogue with the business owners, you are presumably wiling to contact the manager and find out what is going on, yet WAC is subject to all sorts of abuse. Do you have ANY idea why they ban loaded guns? I suggest that you show up at a meeting and ask if it pisses you off enough that you have to slag a bunch of people who you don't know from Adam rather than continue having a reasonable discussion of policy and opinions.How come WAC gets cut a break from all of you for having this rule when other businesses get slammed for having a similar rule?