Hi HP .
I see you have not been here that long, so let me tell you a little history.
In the past few years, there have been a few folks who actually go and do something to try and get this stuff pushed through. MSPGunner has been the guy who motivated me to be a part of this group through first PM's, then email. We have met many times and I'm sure will meet plenty more. Marc and I (as well as LMTD and Doc) did not see eye to eye on things in the beginning. I guess years ago I was sorta like the "whiners" who wanted everything and wanted it now.
The past 2 years I have gotten involved in this movement along with Marc and Rich, and I see in reality what we are dealing with. Like I've told MANY people, there is so much ignorance in that big building in Jeff City, you literally have to see it to believe it. Most of these people debating these bills don't have a clue as to what they are even talking about.
I sat there and watched one Senator tell the floor that if HB436 passed that anyone could go to Iraq, become a terrorist and blow people up, then come back to Mo. and go to an FFL and stock up on more grenades and rocket launchers. :banghead: No, I am NOT kidding.
I knew this year we wouldn't get CC , but we COULD MAYBE get OC WITH a CCW . Is it perfect ? No. Is it the best we could get ? You bet it is. At the end we didn't even think we would get that, but here we are.
I stopped coming to this website because of all the whiners. Only reason I'm here at this moment is because we are so close to this I want to see it through. I probably will stop coming here agian after this session is over, just too many people complaining on a forum they don't have something, yet none of them have a clue as to what is even obtainable. They don't go out and try to do anything to change laws, they just complain things aren't the way they want them. Waaaa.....
So Marc's post is in response to hundreds of posts that you were probably not here to read over the last 3 years or so. It gets tiring trying to make people who have no clue understand WHY stuff is the way it is when they don't want to hear that, they want to hear that they got what "they" wanted, which can mean many things for many people.
People who "want" need to get off their @$$' and DO SOMETHING ! Stop complaining on a forum and go talk to your Reps personally. If you aren't a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem.