VegasSig
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9mm FMJ overpenetration? Did you think I was going to say that>?:celebrate
9mm FMJ overpenetration? Did you think I was going to say that>?:celebrate
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What brand of Ammo do you carry?
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openryan
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VegasSig wrote:
I just won't pull the trigger as hard, that way the bullet won't go as fast...right?
I have though about carrying hollowpoints for a while, and probably eventually will. I have never had a single hiccup with the ammunition I use, so I stick to that as my carry ammo for now. I know over penetration can happen, but I don't put that as my cheif concern when selecting ammunition, there are several that go before that criteria.
VegasSig wrote:
Yes.
I just won't pull the trigger as hard, that way the bullet won't go as fast...right?
I have though about carrying hollowpoints for a while, and probably eventually will. I have never had a single hiccup with the ammunition I use, so I stick to that as my carry ammo for now. I know over penetration can happen, but I don't put that as my cheif concern when selecting ammunition, there are several that go before that criteria.
VegasSig
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openryan wrote:
Good point, whenever I switch SD ammo, I purchase a few hundred rounds to test it for malfunctions. My Sigs eat whatever I throw at them.
What do you carry?
openryan wrote:
Good point, whenever I switch SD ammo, I purchase a few hundred rounds to test it for malfunctions. My Sigs eat whatever I throw at them.
What do you carry?
openryan
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VegasSig wrote:
I picked it up at the gun show for 300 out the door brand new/unfired back in May I believe. I picked up so many guns that day, but overall this was the one, and a lot cheaper than the others I liked. It inherently is accurate when you pick it up, great ergonomics, at least for me. They have it in .40 and 9mm, I opted for the 9mm as the ballistics of the 9mm can be as good and better than both .40 and .45 with the right ammunition of course. Plus the ammo is just a lot cheaper in the long run.
I would like to purchase the glock in .357 next. Every firearm I own as of now is S&W -- probably time to own some other brands.
VegasSig wrote:
S&W Sigma SW9VE I've never fired a glock, but apparently a lot of people say they are pretty close, infact you can exchange the parts of the two and they will both fire, as to what I hear.
I picked it up at the gun show for 300 out the door brand new/unfired back in May I believe. I picked up so many guns that day, but overall this was the one, and a lot cheaper than the others I liked. It inherently is accurate when you pick it up, great ergonomics, at least for me. They have it in .40 and 9mm, I opted for the 9mm as the ballistics of the 9mm can be as good and better than both .40 and .45 with the right ammunition of course. Plus the ammo is just a lot cheaper in the long run.
I would like to purchase the glock in .357 next. Every firearm I own as of now is S&W -- probably time to own some other brands.
Marco
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I would like to see those ballistic tables:what:.
don't want to get into the caliber debate!!!!
generally the only time 9mm (JHP/Frangible ammo)out performs 40/45 is when the 40/45 are stuffed into micro sized guns and the 9mm is fired from a mid to full size gun.
however they still out perform 9mm fmj/ball.
when comparing the above calibers with ball ammo there is little to no difference except for the size of the hole
i do believe the 9mm is a decent round for self defense with modern JHP/frangible ammo
JMHO:
OP should be a consideration simply because your liable for every round that leaves your barrel
NYPD saw the flaw in using ball ammo after a few innocents/officers got shot with rounds that exited their targets
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silly typo
I would like to see those ballistic tables:what:.
don't want to get into the caliber debate!!!!
generally the only time 9mm (JHP/Frangible ammo)out performs 40/45 is when the 40/45 are stuffed into micro sized guns and the 9mm is fired from a mid to full size gun.
however they still out perform 9mm fmj/ball.
when comparing the above calibers with ball ammo there is little to no difference except for the size of the hole
i do believe the 9mm is a decent round for self defense with modern JHP/frangible ammo
JMHO:
OP should be a consideration simply because your liable for every round that leaves your barrel
NYPD saw the flaw in using ball ammo after a few innocents/officers got shot with rounds that exited their targets
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silly typo
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Shooting somebody with the 9mm ball round is like stabbing them with an ice pick.
It takes lots of little holes over a long time to bleed em out.
Having 9mm ball in your PDW is about as silly as ya can get without carying a squirt gun.
Ever seen a human shot with a 9mm ball, I have & I'd rather cary a squirt gun as much good as the 9mm ball rounds do.
However, the proper 9mm HP and it's a superb caliber.
Shooting somebody with the 9mm ball round is like stabbing them with an ice pick.
It takes lots of little holes over a long time to bleed em out.
Having 9mm ball in your PDW is about as silly as ya can get without carying a squirt gun.
Ever seen a human shot with a 9mm ball, I have & I'd rather cary a squirt gun as much good as the 9mm ball rounds do.
However, the proper 9mm HP and it's a superb caliber.
openryan
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Agent19 wrote:
It is a consideration, just not my top priority...
A lot of the op stuff happened in appartments too, I think. They then started even employing tipped rounds.
I don't carry a full size 1911 either, so compared to the size gun I carry, IF I carried the right ammo, it would be very close or outperform.
Agent19 wrote:
Yes, I understand
I would like to see those ballistic tables:what:.
don't want to get into the caliber debate!!!!
generally the only time 9mm (JHP/Frangible ammo)out performs 40/45 is when the 40/45 are stuffed into micro sized guns and the 9mm is fired from a mid to full size gun.
however they still out perform 9mm fmj/ball.
when comparing the above calibers with ball ammo there is little to no difference except for the size of the hole
i do believe the 9mm is a decent round for self defense with modern JHP/frangible ammo
JMHO:
OP should be a consideration simply because your liable for every round that leaves your barrel
NYPD saw the flaw in using ball ammo after a few innocents/officers got shot with rounds that exited their targets
Edit:
silly typo
It is a consideration, just not my top priority...
A lot of the op stuff happened in appartments too, I think. They then started even employing tipped rounds.
I don't carry a full size 1911 either, so compared to the size gun I carry, IF I carried the right ammo, it would be very close or outperform.
Marco
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openryan
State Researcher
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Agent19 wrote:
Their prices seem pretty good, but I have still seen better prices in the store on certain ammo. The shipping might be "free" as you don't see the charge on the bill, but it's already built into the price. The bulk stuff is very nicely priced though.
I would use JHP before EFMJ.
I have never used federal in 9mm, I have used it in other calibers and I was very, very dissapointed. It wouldn't even cycle the gun. Took me 20 minutes to shoot 20 rounds, it would jam, not cycle, not fire, maybe a bad batch, but it turned me off to trying more of their products.
Agent19 wrote:
I have looked at many different manufacturers, never shot Corbon, it is definately on my list of "ones to try" next time I hit the range.
Their prices seem pretty good, but I have still seen better prices in the store on certain ammo. The shipping might be "free" as you don't see the charge on the bill, but it's already built into the price. The bulk stuff is very nicely priced though.
I would use JHP before EFMJ.
I have never used federal in 9mm, I have used it in other calibers and I was very, very dissapointed. It wouldn't even cycle the gun. Took me 20 minutes to shoot 20 rounds, it would jam, not cycle, not fire, maybe a bad batch, but it turned me off to trying more of their products.
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+1 Agent19 on ballistics.
Someone else likes frangible? Love it for summer carry load but not winter.
Cor-bon DPX in my 1911 and it loves it too!
Each weapon I own prefers one or two particular loads except for my JMB pride and joy - it eats whatever I feed it to point of aim - of couse we don't feed it no sloop.
Carry the most reliable, effective but defensible ammo (no hand loads) for your particular weapon.
Yata hey
+1 Agent19 on ballistics.
Someone else likes frangible? Love it for summer carry load but not winter.
Cor-bon DPX in my 1911 and it loves it too!
Each weapon I own prefers one or two particular loads except for my JMB pride and joy - it eats whatever I feed it to point of aim - of couse we don't feed it no sloop.
Carry the most reliable, effective but defensible ammo (no hand loads) for your particular weapon.
Yata hey
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jonnyjeeps
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speer Gold-Dot .45acp
never had a single problem ever
speer Gold-Dot .45acp
never had a single problem ever
Marco
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I recently switched loads.
Same maker different weight.
My current loads is a165gr. Speer Gold Dot @ 1400fps/ 718ft/lbs from a factory Glock 20.
165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 14.25" penetration / 1.02" expansion
I had been using 135gr JHP staggered with a 230gr Equalizer load, this is still carried in my extra magazine.
the makers and the ammo test results can be found here.
http://www.10mmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=1393
I recently switched loads.
Same maker different weight.
My current loads is a165gr. Speer Gold Dot @ 1400fps/ 718ft/lbs from a factory Glock 20.
165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 14.25" penetration / 1.02" expansion
I had been using 135gr JHP staggered with a 230gr Equalizer load, this is still carried in my extra magazine.
the makers and the ammo test results can be found here.
http://www.10mmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=1393
massltca
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I use Remington Golden Saber 230 gr JHP in both my 1911's. I like the 230's cause they're slow and heavy. Theyfeed reliably for me so I stick with them.
I use Remington Golden Saber 230 gr JHP in both my 1911's. I like the 230's cause they're slow and heavy. Theyfeed reliably for me so I stick with them.
color of law
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Winchester for practice.
Speer Gold Dot 38 SPL+P for carry. Specifically designed for J frame 2 in. barrel.
Winchester for practice.
Speer Gold Dot 38 SPL+P for carry. Specifically designed for J frame 2 in. barrel.
G20-IWB24/7
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Mjolnir wrote:
While I do agree with the point that you are making, that there are far superior choices in the caliber, as a mortician, I HAVE seen a human shot w/9mm ball (well, not the actual incident, but the results from it) and I'll testify that shot placement is the key w/FMJ ammo. And if you're shot placement is on, there are devastating results. One can only be so "dead."
As to the original question----
Hornady TAP-FPD 230gr +P in .45ACP (5" Kimber)
Wincester Ranger 147gr in 9mm (G17, Kahr K9 & PM9)
Mjolnir wrote:
While I do agree with the point that you are making, that there are far superior choices in the caliber, as a mortician, I HAVE seen a human shot w/9mm ball (well, not the actual incident, but the results from it) and I'll testify that shot placement is the key w/FMJ ammo. And if you're shot placement is on, there are devastating results. One can only be so "dead."
As to the original question----
Hornady TAP-FPD 230gr +P in .45ACP (5" Kimber)
Wincester Ranger 147gr in 9mm (G17, Kahr K9 & PM9)
Marco
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G20-IWB24/7 wrote:
:dude:, I'm :?.
what does the G20 stand for:question:
Welcome to ocdo.
G20-IWB24/7 wrote:
:dude:, I'm :?.
what does the G20 stand for:question:
Welcome to ocdo.
G20-IWB24/7
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Agent19 wrote:
Agent19 wrote:
About 2 years ago, my everyday carry was a G20 done up by Aro-tek (sweet gun), but I have since moved on. I started up a GlockTalk account under that name back then, and though my carry gun has changed a few times since, I have retained using the same login for all of the boards that I frequent. Keeps things easier that way.
Marco
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just wondered why you didn't list the MIGHTY 10mm
I'm bias.
just wondered why you didn't list the MIGHTY 10mm
I'm bias.
G20-IWB24/7
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Well, I don't have the G20 anymore, but when I did carry it, it was stoked w/16 rounds of Doubletap 165gr. Gold Dot.
Well, I don't have the G20 anymore, but when I did carry it, it was stoked w/16 rounds of Doubletap 165gr. Gold Dot.