ajelias
Regular Member
Please reference the Law that says no carry without cpl
750.234d Possession of firearm on certain premises prohibited; applicability; violation asmisdemeanor; penalty.
Sec. 234d. (1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person shall not possess a firearm on the premises of
any of the following:
(a) A depository financial institution or a subsidiary or affiliate of a depository financial institution.
(b) A church or other house of religious worship.
(c) A court.
(d) A theatre.
(e) A sports arena.
(f) A day care center.
(g) A hospital.
(h) An establishment licensed under the Michigan liquor control act, Act No. 8 of the Public Acts of the
Extra Session of 1933, being sections 436.1 to 436.58 of the Michigan Compiled Laws.
(2) This section does not apply to any of the following:
(a) A person who owns, or is employed by or contracted by, an entity described in subsection (1) if the
possession of that firearm is to provide security services for that entity.
(b) A peace officer.
(c) A person licensed by this state or another state to carry a concealed weapon.
(d) A person who possesses a firearm on the premises of an entity described in subsection (1) if that
possession is with the permission of the owner or an agent of the owner of that entity.
(3) A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more
than 90 days or a fine of not more than $100.00, or both.
History: Add. 1990, Act 321, Eff. Mar. 28, 1991;Am. 1992, Act 218, Imd. Eff. Oct. 13, 1992;Am. 1994, Act 158, Eff. Aug. 15,
1994.
Thanks much Thats what I was After
Your friend is wrong. The law clearly states that it is unlawful to possess a firearm in... "An establishment licensed under the Michigan liquor control act, Act No. 8 of the Public Acts of the Extra Session of 1933, being sections 436.1 to 436.58 of the Michigan Compiled Laws." Businesses that are licensed to sell packaged alcohol fall under the above. There fore, it is illegal to possess a firearm in Meijer, Walmart, or any other store that sells packaged alcohol.My friend claims the law is refering to by the glass establishments only
My friend claims the law is refering to by the glass establishments only
My friend claims the law is refering to by the glass establishments only
it's a terribly thought out law. Every non-cpl hunter in the state that travels with a long gun cased in his vehicle and stop's at a gas station, wal-mart, meijer, or any other establishment with a liquor license is guilty of violating the mcl, prior to shall issue, this included nearly every hunter.
As a law maker, how can you create a law when you know that a huge portion of the population will violate said law?
it's a terribly thought out law. Every non-cpl hunter in the state that travels with a long gun cased in his vehicle and stop's at a gas station, wal-mart, meijer, or any other establishment with a liquor license is guilty of violating the mcl, prior to shall issue, this included nearly every hunter.
As a law maker, how can you create a law when you know that a huge portion of the population will violate said law?
It also includes a large number of folks who buy guns at Walmart. They walk in LAC's, walk out criminals.
If it is, it's buried real good. I saved that file, then tried searching for "firearm," "weapon," and finally, "pistol." The only word that showed up was "firearm" and that was in relation to the "bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms." I don't think the prohibition is part of the liquor control act, (Unless it's been amended, and we don't have that amended version.) I think it's part of MCL 750.234d.http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-act-58-of-1998.pdf
That is the liquor control act, its hidden in there somewhere.
It also includes a large number of folks who buy guns at Walmart. They walk in LAC's, walk out criminals.
No they don't. 750.234d provides an exception for anybody possessing a firearm, sans cpl, if they have permission from the owner or agent of the owner. I'm fairly certain Walmart would consider it permissible for you to possess a firearm in their store long enough to complete your transaction.
I know you know this Bronson... I'm just clarifying for those reading.... "on the premises" is not just "in their store"... "on the premises" is also the parking lot/property... and yes, I would suspect that any business that sold a firearm would be "implying" consent to possess that just now purchased firearm "on the premises" .... at least until the buyer leaves the entire property in a timely manner.No they don't. 750.234d provides an exception for anybody possessing a firearm, sans cpl, if they have permission from the owner or agent of the owner. I'm fairly certain Walmart would consider it permissible for you to possess a firearm in their store long enough to complete your transaction.
The majority of citizens are irresponsible when it comes to voting for the folks who are going to make our laws.They do not know the people who they're voting for,what they believe,if they understand our constitutions.So when laws are passed there's only the hope they're constitutional and correct.Many a law has been passed without any understanding of whether it's right or constitutional.Thats why there's 20,000 gun laws as opposed to THE GUN LAW-2nd Amendment.From SIMPLE(2A) to TYRANICAL(too complicated even for lawyers and LE to understand)! Thats why our fight is so hard!NEVER GIVE UP,NEVER QUIT! CARRY ON!it's a terribly thought out law. Every non-cpl hunter in the state that travels with a long gun cased in his vehicle and stop's at a gas station, wal-mart, meijer, or any other establishment with a liquor license is guilty of violating the mcl, prior to shall issue, this included nearly every hunter.
As a law maker, how can you create a law when you know that a huge portion of the population will violate said law?
If it is, it's buried real good. I saved that file, then tried searching for "firearm," "weapon," and finally, "pistol." The only word that showed up was "firearm" and that was in relation to the "bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms." I don't think the prohibition is part of the liquor control act, (Unless it's been amended, and we don't have that amended version.) I think it's part of MCL 750.234d.