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7. Are you asking me to incriminate myself officer?
Oh, good. Lets practice!
Cop: "If you have nothing to hide, why do you mind answering my question?"
7. Are you asking me to incriminate myself officer?
oh, good. Lets practice!
Cop: "if you have nothing to hide, why do you mind answering my question?"
I would argue that running the serial number of a firearm seized "for officer safety" during a traffic stop violates the 4th Amendment and the Washington State Constitution.
1. The serial number of the gun was not in plain sight in it's original condition inside a holster being worn by the subject.
2. The serial number only came into plain sight due to the manipulation of the object by the police officer.
Oh, good. Lets practice!
Cop: "If you have nothing to hide, why do you mind answering my question?"
Your premise that innocent people should need to have a reason not to share personal info with others is faulty.
I have plenty to hide. My personal data. It belongs to me. I'll not give it away, that would be stupid.
*silence*
Great answer. Please take over drilling TwoSkins. He needs some more practice.
I would like a cite for the WA legal definition of "concealed."
This question has been beaten to death in several recent threads.
Carry and use a recording device.
Every interaction with any LEO must be recorded, even if you initiate the contact (one person consent states only).
Never ever volunteer any information that is not directly related to the specifics of the LEO contact and then only as absolutely required under the law.
Seemingly "nice cops" are not your friend. They are not necessarily your "enemy" either. Remember what their primary purpose is, and it is not to protect you or protect your rights. Yes, the overwhelming majority of cops will do their level best to protect you and respect your rights if they can, but that is a personal choice and not a legal mandate.
The measure of a "good" outcome when contacted by a LEO is that the LEO only interacts with a citizen when required under the law and makes that interaction as short in duration as possible.
Good luck and don't provide LE any opportunities for you to have to use the information you obtain here.
this thread is going all kinds of ways
my pat answer to the question "do you know why i pulled you over" is
1. because you are a busy body with nothing else to do
2 . because your mommy didn't breast feed you
3. because your mommy breast fed you
dumb questions get dumb answers
4. Because you got Fs in school
5. Because you were bullied in school want to take it out on everyone else
6. Because McDonalds would not hire you
7. Because you wanted to be the next cop for the Villiage People and need directions to [STRIKE]San Fransisco.[/STRIKE] Greenwich Village
8. Because you knew women liked a man in uniform and figured that was the only way you could get one without having to do the work the military requires...and now that it didnt work.... well I'm not interested either.
9. Because Reno 911 looked like so much fun you thought you would try too.
The village people are from NYC, greenwich village, not San Fran
K, sorry didnt mean to offend you.
7. Because you wanted to be the next cop for the Villiage People and need directions to San Fransisco.
8. Because you knew women liked a man in uniform and figured that was the only way you could get one without having to do the work the military requires...and now that it didnt work.... well I'm not interested either.
9. Because Reno 911 looked like so much fun you thought you would try too.
1. It is my personal belief that it is generally a good idea to inform police of you are carrying. I was OCing and the last thing I wanted was for him to notice my firearm and draw his weapon.
2. I allowed him to disarm because I felt it would make him feel safer. I'm all for that. Sent from my iPhone.
He must REALLY like his village people
I'm surprised no one has hit on the most obvious (and correct) answer here:
"...because I was violating one or more traffic laws and endangering all those around me."
Agreed. I would have done the same.