minarchist
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The poll questions never state that the proposal includes record keeping. Therefore, the use of this statistic is a dishonest tactic.
The poll questions never state that the proposal includes record keeping. Therefore, the use of this statistic is a dishonest tactic.
Which poll? Do you have a link?
This has been mentioned in the news a lot lately, and the numbers are usually in the neighborhood of 90%:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...2.6.6.0.crnk_ir..0.0...1.1.8.serp.-BQIgMRrXLg
Please, read the freaking article...really read the words, think about them, exercise those brains.
Seriously, I really want to help you here. You MUST read between the lines. All people must think hard about what is being stated in these articles...they are written strategically. It's no coincidence the article was fashioned the way it was fashion. There's an intent.
Here you go, from your link: "More than 9 in 10 Americans (91 percent) support the idea of universal background checks..."
Hopefully this will help you understand what is being stated.
I know what is being stated. The problem is that progressive scum take ""More than 9 in 10 Americans (91 percent) support the idea of universal background check" and portray that as approximately 90% of citizens supporting the actual details being proposed (e.g., universal registration). The problem is not with me, but rather with your ilk.
Polls are regularly worded so that they can be spun to show the results that the pollsters want. We try to shine a bright light on those that ate misleading.
What we do not do here is attack/insult one another. We stick to discussing the facts.
The "90% of citizens want UBC" lie
The poll questions never state that the proposal includes record keeping.
21. Do you support or oppose - stricter gun control laws in the United States? Tot Rep Dem Ind Men Wom Wht Blk Hsp Support 53% 29% 78% 52% 45% 61% 48% 78% 65% Oppose 42 67 19 44 51 35 47 19 30 DK/NA 4 4 3 5 4 5 4 3 5 REGION................... DENSITY............ HAVE KIDS.. NEast MWest South West Urban Suburb Rural <18InPubSch Support 58% 51% 51% 55% 59% 56% 42% 51% 52% Oppose 37 46 44 41 37 39 55 43 42 DK/NA 5 3 5 4 4 5 3 6 6 COLLEGE DEG ANNUAL HSHOLD INC AGE IN YRS....... Gun Yes No <50K 50-100 >100K 18-34 35-54 55+ HsHld Support 60% 50% 54% 50% 60% 49% 53% 57% 35% Oppose 36 45 42 46 36 48 43 38 61 DK/NA 4 4 4 4 3 3 4 5 3 TREND: Do you support or oppose stricter gun control laws in the United States? Apr 04 Mar 07 Feb 07 Jul 17 2013 2013 2013 2008 Support 53 51 52 54 Oppose 42 42 43 40 DK/NA 4 7 5 5 22. Do you support or oppose - a nationwide ban on the sale of assault weapons? Tot Rep Dem Ind Men Wom Wht Blk Hsp Support 59% 41% 79% 56% 47% 70% 56% 78% 61% Oppose 36 55 15 41 50 24 40 17 29 DK/NA 4 4 6 3 2 6 3 5 10 REGION................... DENSITY............ HAVE KIDS.. NEast MWest South West Urban Suburb Rural <18InPubSch Support 64% 56% 60% 58% 62% 63% 52% 57% 54% Oppose 31 42 36 36 34 32 44 37 39 DK/NA 5 2 4 7 4 5 4 6 7 COLLEGE DEG ANNUAL HSHOLD INC AGE IN YRS....... Gun Yes No <50K 50-100 >100K 18-34 35-54 55+ HsHld Support 65% 57% 62% 55% 61% 56% 57% 64% 46% Oppose 32 38 34 40 37 38 40 32 50 DK/NA 3 5 4 4 2 5 3 4 4 TREND: Do you support or oppose a nationwide ban on the sale of assault weapons? Apr 04 Mar 07 Feb 07 2013 2013 2013 Support 59 54 56 Oppose 36 41 39 DK/NA 4 6 5 23. Do you support or oppose - a nationwide ban on the sale of high-capacity ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 bullets? Tot Rep Dem Ind Men Wom Wht Blk Hsp Support 58% 40% 78% 55% 48% 67% 56% 73% 55% Oppose 38 55 18 42 48 28 39 24 38 DK/NA 4 5 4 3 3 5 4 3 7 REGION................... DENSITY............ HAVE KIDS.. NEast MWest South West Urban Suburb Rural <18InPubSch Support 60% 55% 59% 58% 61% 62% 49% 57% 57% Oppose 34 40 38 38 35 33 47 39 40 DK/NA 6 5 3 4 4 5 4 4 3 COLLEGE DEG ANNUAL HSHOLD INC AGE IN YRS....... Gun Yes No <50K 50-100 >100K 18-34 35-54 55+ HsHld Support 66% 54% 59% 58% 62% 52% 58% 62% 46% Oppose 31 41 37 39 35 46 37 33 51 DK/NA 3 5 4 3 3 2 4 5 3 TREND: Do you support or oppose a nationwide ban on the sale of high-capacity ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 bullets? Apr 04 Mar 07 Feb 07 2013 2013 2013 Support 58 54 56 Oppose 38 42 40 DK/NA 4 5 4 24. Do you support or oppose - requiring background checks for all gun buyers? Tot Rep Dem Ind Men Wom Wht Blk Hsp Support 91% 88% 96% 90% 88% 94% 91% 94% 90% Oppose 8 10 4 9 12 5 8 5 5 DK/NA 1 2 - 1 1 2 1 1 5 REGION................... DENSITY............ HAVE KIDS.. NEast MWest South West Urban Suburb Rural <18InPubSch Support 92% 91% 90% 91% 92% 93% 88% 91% 89% Oppose 7 8 8 8 7 6 11 8 10 DK/NA 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 COLLEGE DEG ANNUAL HSHOLD INC AGE IN YRS....... Gun Yes No <50K 50-100 >100K 18-34 35-54 55+ HsHld Support 92% 91% 92% 90% 91% 95% 92% 88% 88% Oppose 7 8 7 10 8 5 8 9 11 DK/NA 1 1 1 - 1 - - 2 1 TREND: Do you support or oppose requiring background checks for all gun buyers? Apr 04 Mar 07 Feb 07 2013 2013 2013 Support 91 88 92 Oppose 8 10 7 DK/NA 1 2 1 25. Do you believe that if there are background checks for all gun purchases the government will or will not use that information in the future to confiscate legally-owned guns? Tot Rep Dem Ind Men Wom Wht Blk Hsp Confiscate 48% 61% 32% 51% 52% 45% 47% 42% 55% Will not 38 25 54 36 37 38 39 43 28 DK/NA 14 15 14 13 11 17 14 15 17 REGION................... DENSITY............ HAVE KIDS.. NEast MWest South West Urban Suburb Rural <18InPubSch Confiscate 47% 46% 52% 44% 45% 46% 55% 49% 44% Will not 38 37 37 40 41 40 31 40 42 DK/NA 14 17 11 16 14 14 14 12 14 COLLEGE DEG ANNUAL HSHOLD INC AGE IN YRS....... Gun Yes No <50K 50-100 >100K 18-34 35-54 55+ HsHld Confiscate 36% 53% 52% 48% 39% 58% 47% 43% 53% Will not 52 31 34 39 52 33 40 41 34 DK/NA 11 15 14 13 9 9 13 16 13 http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institute...titute/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1877
Easier to read format found here:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institute...titute/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1877
Ooops, sorry see that the link has already been shown.
The voters must have been chosen selectively, I don't personally know of a single person who supports universal background checks, (maybe it's because the people I socialize with know what it means to have universal background checks?) so I can't believe that 9 out of every 10 Americans are for it. Granted that 8 of those 9 are probably ignorant to what it even means. Anyway a poll of less than 2000 is hardly a representation of America.
The voters must have been chosen selectively, I don't personally know of a single person who supports universal background checks, (maybe it's because the people I socialize with know what it means to have universal background checks?) so I can't believe that 9 out of every 10 Americans are for it. Granted that 8 of those 9 are probably ignorant to what it even means. Anyway a poll of less than 2000 is hardly a representation of America.
True enough - they do not show/demonstrate a selection from all demographic areas/peoples.
I would like to know what it means to have Universal Background Checks, please. Can you explain to me what it would cover?
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I would like to know what it means to have Universal Background Checks, please. Can you explain to me what it would cover?
Agreed, the sample is small. The calls appear to have been random. Unless I missed something in their description of the process.
No one is required to tell the truth about how they got the information either, I'm not saying it's false, but I never take opinion polls as complete truths.
In a general sense, the part about UBC's that most are ignorant to is the fact that you can't legally pass down your firearms to your children, or other family members without having a background check done. Frankly this is none of the governments business. I'm against background checks anyway as I don't think any of it is the governments business. UBC's are also completely unenforceable unless a database exists that will link you to all the weapons you should own, which is 100% gun registration (which is illegal anyway). So the only two outcomes of UBC's is either having a system that is completely unenforceable, or you break the law to create a database of gun owners. Since one is illegal and the other is useless, what's the point of having them?
You are wrong, period, regarding passing firearms down. Read section 124 (I believe) of the Bill, under Exclusions.
There will be no gun database created for all gun owners.
Seriously, are some of you screwing with me?