usSiR
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On Saturday 21 June
I was just starting up Farmington canyon on my ATV, oc'n,when at the bottom of the road I saw a UT Department of Natural Resources officer truck and trailer.
I thought to my self this might be interesting.
So just after the first couple switch backs I see these 2 guys on yellow ATV's, I pass the first one and the second one stops and starts to get off, then I notice it's the Wildlife officers. So I stop turn off the ATV and this is how it went.
officer- Hey how's it going
me- good
officer- were just stopping people and checking registration and stuff
me- oh ok cool
officer- I see your stickers on the front are good. Do you have them on the back?
me- yes sirI do
so he steps around the back of my ATV an looks, and thats when he notices my firearm.
officer- I see that you are carrying a firearm today
me- yes sir
officer- is it loaded?
me- yes sir it is
officer- shock:<--- the look on his face) do you have a concealed firearms permit?
me- yes sir I do
officer- well you cant do that
me- sir, the UT AG has clearly explained this that it is ok, during a firearms amendmentearlier this year
officer- well... we just had some training on this,I'm pretty sure you can't, but let me double check and ask, just don't touch your firearm.
me- ok sir, hey can I move off the middle of the road?
officer- yeah ok
sometime during the conversation the other officer pulled up behind me, he never really became a part of this stop, he just sat there. So I moved and so did the 1st officer. So he gets on the radio, I really didn't hear what was said but seemed like he tried to get a hold of a few people.
so after maybe 5-10 min, he comes back
officer-can i see your conceal carry card andlicence
me- sure
I step off the ATV keeping my strong side to him, more for my safety. I hand him the 2 ID's and the UT gun law pamphlet we have on here
me- here is where I get most of my information and law references your welcome to keep that for your reference, it also list websites
officer- uh ok.. hey by loaded do you mean just the magazine in, or one in the chamber
me- there is one in the chamber sir
officer- oh well hold on a second (goes back to his atv)
AsI see him looking atmystuff he gets a phone call, I hear him say "really? oh I didn't know that". he gets off his phone and comes back.
officer- well.. my boss says you can't do that, but some one I just talked to on the phone (while he points to SLC) says you can. I wasn't aware of this and I'm not quite sure what to do since I got two different answers. So I'm not going to write you a ticket and I'mgoing to check into this and see. Here is your stuff back and have a good day.
:monkey
me- ok you too, hey whats your name?
officer- chris
me- ok (and shake his hand)
The other officer pulls up on his atv and says somethingabout how nice it was outside, I said I was a nice dayout too, then he goes and pulls over another ATV.
It was kinda funny how he got weirded out when I said it was loaded and almost seemed to forget what he should do, but he was really nice and professional. I just kept a good composure and was nice too so there wouldn't be anything bad happening.
The rest of the day was good with hours of riding, I stopped and talked to a few people. One person noticed I was the guy that was stopped by the officers, we talked for quite awhile and I gave him the UT gun laws pamphlet, so he may comeby here.
I would like to mail a letter to the guys boss or chief, but don't know where to mail it to.
On Saturday 21 June
I was just starting up Farmington canyon on my ATV, oc'n,when at the bottom of the road I saw a UT Department of Natural Resources officer truck and trailer.
I thought to my self this might be interesting.
So just after the first couple switch backs I see these 2 guys on yellow ATV's, I pass the first one and the second one stops and starts to get off, then I notice it's the Wildlife officers. So I stop turn off the ATV and this is how it went.
officer- Hey how's it going
me- good
officer- were just stopping people and checking registration and stuff
me- oh ok cool
officer- I see your stickers on the front are good. Do you have them on the back?
me- yes sirI do
so he steps around the back of my ATV an looks, and thats when he notices my firearm.
officer- I see that you are carrying a firearm today
me- yes sir
officer- is it loaded?
me- yes sir it is
officer- shock:<--- the look on his face) do you have a concealed firearms permit?
me- yes sir I do
officer- well you cant do that
me- sir, the UT AG has clearly explained this that it is ok, during a firearms amendmentearlier this year
officer- well... we just had some training on this,I'm pretty sure you can't, but let me double check and ask, just don't touch your firearm.
me- ok sir, hey can I move off the middle of the road?
officer- yeah ok
sometime during the conversation the other officer pulled up behind me, he never really became a part of this stop, he just sat there. So I moved and so did the 1st officer. So he gets on the radio, I really didn't hear what was said but seemed like he tried to get a hold of a few people.
so after maybe 5-10 min, he comes back
officer-can i see your conceal carry card andlicence
me- sure
I step off the ATV keeping my strong side to him, more for my safety. I hand him the 2 ID's and the UT gun law pamphlet we have on here
me- here is where I get most of my information and law references your welcome to keep that for your reference, it also list websites
officer- uh ok.. hey by loaded do you mean just the magazine in, or one in the chamber
me- there is one in the chamber sir
officer- oh well hold on a second (goes back to his atv)
AsI see him looking atmystuff he gets a phone call, I hear him say "really? oh I didn't know that". he gets off his phone and comes back.
officer- well.. my boss says you can't do that, but some one I just talked to on the phone (while he points to SLC) says you can. I wasn't aware of this and I'm not quite sure what to do since I got two different answers. So I'm not going to write you a ticket and I'mgoing to check into this and see. Here is your stuff back and have a good day.
:monkey
me- ok you too, hey whats your name?
officer- chris
me- ok (and shake his hand)
The other officer pulls up on his atv and says somethingabout how nice it was outside, I said I was a nice dayout too, then he goes and pulls over another ATV.
It was kinda funny how he got weirded out when I said it was loaded and almost seemed to forget what he should do, but he was really nice and professional. I just kept a good composure and was nice too so there wouldn't be anything bad happening.
The rest of the day was good with hours of riding, I stopped and talked to a few people. One person noticed I was the guy that was stopped by the officers, we talked for quite awhile and I gave him the UT gun laws pamphlet, so he may comeby here.
I would like to mail a letter to the guys boss or chief, but don't know where to mail it to.