All of the court documents and original video can be found here.
http://bamacarry.org/forums/topic/jason-dean-tulley-vs-the-city-of-jacksonville/
Court of criminal appeals audio. Make sure to listen 28:00 - 33:00
http://bamacarry.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/CourtOfCriminalAppeals-1.mp4
<START TIME 34:46>
Prosecutor: "In my opinion Mr. Tulley was not... if 52 is a valid statue... he was not in violation when he walked into the credit union, because in the transcript of the trial in front of Judge Thomason in circuit court in Calhoun county the police officer could not state definitively that there was or was not a sign in the window instructing people not to bring weapons in even though it is credit union policy not to have weapons on the premises. Mr. Tulley became in violation when he did not leave when the security guard asked him to leave, and instead of leaving he stood and engaged the security guard arguing or discussing the ca... whether he had the right to have the gun, and this argument or discussion lasted approximately 20 minutes ( the entire thing only lasted 35 seconds) and the police report it lasted until 1:30 until 1:50, and I feel that that's an unreasonable amount of time for him to have stayed engaging the security guard with a gun on his hip. The proper thing that he should have done that day was take the gun to the car immediately, come back do his business in the credit union, and then if he wanted to engage the security guard in the discussion try to do so then."
Judge: "So you're... you're conceding that notice was required of Mr. Tulley?"
Prosecutor: "And Mr S.... the security guard did give him notice."
Judge: "So if he had immediately turned around and left the premises and put his weapon back in his car he would not have violated the statue?"
Prosecutor: "Yes. Um... focusing on something that is not just the law in our society: we are all concerned with the Bill of Rights and we do have a right to carry weapons under certain circumstances as long as we follow the law in this country, but at the same time we have to think about public policy and the safety of the citizens and I would like to talk about something that happened in Anniston Alabama in 1991. Three men walked into Shoney’s armed with shotguns, they hauled twenty people into the cooler and were threatening to kill them. One man, thank goodness had a gun, a concealed weapon, with a license. Looking at it from a purely common sense view, the law (find)?, if Mr. Terry at Shoney’s that day had had a gun on his hip in plain sight it is very possible that one of those three men would have shot him immediately when they saw that gun, knowing him to be a threat. Thank God he had it concealed and he had the opportunity to save not only himself but twenty other people. One must use common sense when carrying weapons, and because of all the problems that we're having in this country with shootings and things like that I think that when you start carrying a gun just... down the street it.... it scares people. I think that your decision here today will make a lot of difference in society and you should think about all the consequences. Um. Would yall like to ask me any more questions? I think I'm done. Thank you."
http://bamacarry.org/forums/topic/jason-dean-tulley-vs-the-city-of-jacksonville/
Court of criminal appeals audio. Make sure to listen 28:00 - 33:00
http://bamacarry.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/CourtOfCriminalAppeals-1.mp4
<START TIME 34:46>
Prosecutor: "In my opinion Mr. Tulley was not... if 52 is a valid statue... he was not in violation when he walked into the credit union, because in the transcript of the trial in front of Judge Thomason in circuit court in Calhoun county the police officer could not state definitively that there was or was not a sign in the window instructing people not to bring weapons in even though it is credit union policy not to have weapons on the premises. Mr. Tulley became in violation when he did not leave when the security guard asked him to leave, and instead of leaving he stood and engaged the security guard arguing or discussing the ca... whether he had the right to have the gun, and this argument or discussion lasted approximately 20 minutes ( the entire thing only lasted 35 seconds) and the police report it lasted until 1:30 until 1:50, and I feel that that's an unreasonable amount of time for him to have stayed engaging the security guard with a gun on his hip. The proper thing that he should have done that day was take the gun to the car immediately, come back do his business in the credit union, and then if he wanted to engage the security guard in the discussion try to do so then."
Judge: "So you're... you're conceding that notice was required of Mr. Tulley?"
Prosecutor: "And Mr S.... the security guard did give him notice."
Judge: "So if he had immediately turned around and left the premises and put his weapon back in his car he would not have violated the statue?"
Prosecutor: "Yes. Um... focusing on something that is not just the law in our society: we are all concerned with the Bill of Rights and we do have a right to carry weapons under certain circumstances as long as we follow the law in this country, but at the same time we have to think about public policy and the safety of the citizens and I would like to talk about something that happened in Anniston Alabama in 1991. Three men walked into Shoney’s armed with shotguns, they hauled twenty people into the cooler and were threatening to kill them. One man, thank goodness had a gun, a concealed weapon, with a license. Looking at it from a purely common sense view, the law (find)?, if Mr. Terry at Shoney’s that day had had a gun on his hip in plain sight it is very possible that one of those three men would have shot him immediately when they saw that gun, knowing him to be a threat. Thank God he had it concealed and he had the opportunity to save not only himself but twenty other people. One must use common sense when carrying weapons, and because of all the problems that we're having in this country with shootings and things like that I think that when you start carrying a gun just... down the street it.... it scares people. I think that your decision here today will make a lot of difference in society and you should think about all the consequences. Um. Would yall like to ask me any more questions? I think I'm done. Thank you."
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