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"Brandishing" as justification for LEO's use of deadly force

OC for ME

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So at least two classes of voters, then? Those who can vote for elected officials (e.g. everyone) and only those who own businesses/real estate can vote on issues that directly affect that tax base? So do you think that only those folks should be entitled to emergency services response? Or that only their kids should attend public schools? Those who own rental property also pay these same taxes, and guess what? It comes out of the tenants' rent. Should they get a rent reduction?
...careful...you may be accused of pandering to those who revere the US Constitution...
 

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So at least two classes of voters, then? Those who can vote for elected officials (e.g. everyone) and only those who own businesses/real estate can vote on issues that directly affect that tax base? So do you think that only those folks should be entitled to emergency services response? Or that only their kids should attend public schools? Those who own rental property also pay these same taxes, and guess what? It comes out of the tenants' rent. Should they get a rent reduction?
alas 2a4all, remember, landlords of rental property may claim property tax as an expense, deductible off their state & federal filings...

renters/leasees also pay the burden of the landlord's insurance/amorization of appliances, heating equipment etc., again business expenses and deductible for the landlord...

emergency responce is a 20th century luxury put in place by those elected by everyone ~ paid for in part/all...yepper you guessed it - property taxes! at one time properties on fire were ignored if the owner hadn't "contributed" to the responce fund!

those elected by all put the infamous jerry brown in office several times...the first time at his 'suggestion' the CA legislature took/curtailed after school activities the school communities' tax base paid for!
 
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I have often observed that the law is the only protection that we peasants have. "Civilization" is a society in which there is a body of written law which everyone agrees (directly or by inheritance) will apply to their behavior, and as to which the people give their voluntary compliance, accepting the will of the people even where they disagree.

The thing is that every primate society, apes, great apes (including humans), and monkeys, have in common is social structure. We consist of a combination of hardware and software, unlike things like bugs, which can't learn anything and all their software is burned into "read-only memory". Because we can learn, we can also un-learn. So those who wish to be our masters have been actively attacking the United States since the early 1900's and their long-range plans have been largely successful. Our education system has been completely subverted, so we have collectively "un-learned" the principles of American culture based on that of those who built the country in its first two hundred years. Our young'uns don't know anything useful about history - so they can't recognize the parallels between what happened in Germany between 1910 and 1935 and our situation today.

Moreover, the language has been twisted and distorted so that everybody thinks it's ok to make up his own definitions for words, and words like "anarchy", "democracy", "liberal", "conservative" and "socialism" are often used to describe the exact opposite of what those words mean. Listen to CNN and you'll find words used to mean something other than their actual denotative definitions. Think back to the times of Genesis and consider how God destroyed Babylon: he confused their language, such that no one could understand anyone else. Back when the public schools were run by the local communities, kids were taught history and English; now that the United States Department of Education (which, according to the Constitution, should never have existed) has taken over, and because that department has been infiltrated by fascists ("deep state"), the schools no longer do education.

Back to the law: another feature of the strategy is the excessive, onerous, unreasonable, and oppressive multiplicity of laws. That's so no one will know what to do, so that even-handed and legitimate enforcement will be impossible, and so that everyone will be guilty of something. That takes our protection out of the law and our system of voluntary compliance, and places it in the hands of petty tyrants. As we saw with respect to Michael Flynn's case, anyone can be "gotten" for political reasons; it's a matter of personal power, now, not civilization. You offend someone in a position of power and rather than having professional detachment and intellectual honesty, they react with retribution. And when they want to do that, they charge the victim with a slew of crimes, most of which they know are bogus, but which collectively add up to hundreds of years in prison. That's so they can threaten the victim with that kind of extortion in order to force him to agree to a "plea bargain" (as we saw with Flynn). The victim lacks the resources to fight The Power of the State, so even if the victim ultimately goes to trial and wins, he's been bankrupted, and has lost his job, home and his family. Even if you win, you lose.

Remember the movie, "The Magnificent Seven"? We're the peasants, the villagers. The question is, are we going to be governed by Eli Wallach, who only serves his own agenda, or are we going to be governed by Yul Brynner, whom we hire and who works for us? Some bandit is going to be in charge, human society requires collective action, co-ordinated by an authority.

Is that authority going to be answerable to us, or will that authority be another tyrant? We have given away our power. It's time to take it back. No more kings, please. We need to reverse the damage done by the fascists (and here, I'm talking about people like Bloomberg, Schiff, Schumer & Pelosi, and their minions).
 

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In re “the ... multiplicity of laws.”. Featured in Alexandr Solzhenitsyn The Gulag Archipelago and George Orwell’s Nineteen eighty-Four published years earlier.

The Bolsheviks subjective application of justice was featured in ‘Gulag’ just as it is in Portland.
 

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Powerful words user...the .gov only has the authority We The People relinquish to them...

Watch the news where riots are being observed and you will not see cops busting looters, arsonists and rioters...nope, they gots families and bills to pay...but, they see you or me, all by your lonesome, "breakin da law" and they more often than not are gunna bust you...cuz it is safe for them to bust a lowly single civilian, cuz they know that more than likely we respect the law and the law man.

We The People can take back the authority we freely relinquished in the same manner as our founders took back their individual liberty from their .gov....

We can fix the Shiffty Schiff, Chuck You Schumer and Granny Nancy problem by voting to oust them...that's how we sort of kind of set this whole "civilization" thing up way back in the day...da thing is now, as was not the case back then, we have cops willing to stop us from doing what our founders did back then against their .gov.

You're right, user...with universal mail-in ballots you and I, just the two of us, will oust Shiffty, Chuck You and Granny from office...who's gunna know?...right?
 
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