Called for Jury Duty..

[thebigsd]

Oh, my, oh my, oh my. It turns out Thomas Jefferson was a FIJA freak. Look what I stumbled upon, fellas (emphasis by Citizen):

...It is left therefore to the juries, if they think the permanent judges are under any biass whatever in any cause, to take upon themselves to judge the law as well as the fact. They never exercise this power but when they suspect partiality in the judges, and by the exercise of this power they have been the firmest bulwarks of English liberty. Letter to Arnoux. 1789.

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendVIIs13.html


FIJA Freak

I believe we call that a kill shot.

 

[DCR]

Nah, not even

You know that old saw about not trying to teach pigs to whistle? It applies here....

I realized I waded into a morass of folks full self-righteous ignorance and decided to leave them to stew in their own ilk. Good luck with your quest to completely undermine the rule of law and jurisprudence - I have better things to do than give whistling lessons....

 

[thebigsd]

You know that old saw about not trying to teach pigs to whistle? It applies here....

I realized I waded into a morass of folks full self-righteous ignorance and decided to leave them to stew in their own ilk. Good luck with your quest to completely undermine the rule of law and jurisprudence - I have better things to do than give whistling lessons....

Groundhogs are known as whistle pigs.

When alarmed, they use a high-pitched whistle to warn the rest of the colony, hence the name "whistle-pig".

 

[Teddybearfrmhell]

You know that old saw about not trying to teach pigs to whistle? It applies here....

I realized I waded into a morass of folks full self-righteous ignorance and decided to leave them to stew in their own ilk. Good luck with your quest to completely undermine the rule of law and jurisprudence - I have better things to do than give whistling lessons....

i have been following this discourse as a non partisan.... since i basicly dont give a ratsass about the subject but i do have to say that your inability to refute the intent of a founding fathers statement written AFTER the forming of the united states speaks volumes about you. your arguments should be backed by scholarly works and your righteous indignation and name calling do nothing to bolster your credibility. if you are going to surrender, there are better ways to do it than spewing crap as you slam the door on your way out. it is unbecoming of your 3 degrees and your 21 years of service as an attorney. is this how you act in court?

btw, its ok for you to be wrong, it happens all the time..... laws are changed, courts overturn convictions, the supreme court clarifies, upholds or strike down judgement all the time.

 

[Freedom First]

You know that old saw about not trying to teach pigs to whistle? It applies here....

I realized I waded into a morass of folks full self-righteous ignorance and decided to leave them to stew in their own ilk. Good luck with your quest to completely undermine the rule of law and jurisprudence - I have better things to do than give whistling lessons....

Well, I can whistle already. You leapt in here spewing and seemingly angered by the subject matter. Honestly, if you have some information to share, to enlighten us dumb masses, then please share it. I don't claim to know everything (I leave that to others) and I am willing to learn if someone is willing to try to teach.

Is it really "undermining the rule of law and jurisprudence" to call into question an unjust law and to act accordingly? And what has changed since the 1800s that renders the jury unable to see truth and make moral and sound judgements? Are we just that stupid (or perhaps we're just not educated enough?)?

 

[VW_Factor]

Gee I don't know, because it's been discussed to

death on this forum that guns aren't allowed in court buildings, and that as a gun-toting person in the State of Oregon you should have already known that, and that you're a little on the 'noid side for not wanting to be without your precious sidearm for the short amount of time it will take for the attorney's to decide they don't want you on their jury.

As for taking offense- WTF? Would you like turkey bacon on top your haircut ma'am?

Add dumb as it sounds,I was never able to get an answer via email out the couple phone calls. The jury coordinator said during her short instructions. "of you checked in a weapon with the sheriff be sure to remember to pick it up on the way out."

Now maybe she was not really talking about firearms, but I will be sure to ask the sheriff directly when I get a chance.