Carry on Corps of Engineers property?

[Keens]

Hi Folks,

We are leaving to hit the road soon to Wisconsin and I've got an issue. My fiancée finally told me where we are camping and the campground is on Army Corps of Engineers property. Ugh, now I wonder if I gotta leave my sidearm at home. I'm pretty bummed, but I really hope CC is okay and I dunno if the new carry laws for National Parks applies to Army Corps of Engineers property. Might just have to find another spot but she reserved this one and won't be happy if we have to change campgrounds to accommodate my sidearm. We will be driving straight through the night and I'd prefer I have with me especially at gas stations in the middle of the night. Anyone know the answer to carrying on Corps of Engineers property?

Much Appreciated!

Edit: according to handgunlaw.us, CC is prohibited. I've heard that CC and OC are ok at Chatfield State Park, which is a Army Corps of Engineer property. *sigh* I'm stumped. I will convince her we will have to find another spot to camp at tomorrow night and Sat.

Keens

 

[Fallschirjmäger]

Carrying on Corps of Engineer land is prohibited. And since they are a federal agency, it's a federal court that hears the case.

The Gosar amendment, modeled after the Recreational Lands Self-Defense Act (H.R. 1865) introduced by pro-gun Rep. Bob Gibbs (R-OH), is similar to a 2009 law repealing the gun ban on National Park Service land. Army Corps of Engineers land was not part of that bill, something the Corps was quick to point out after that law took affect.

The Corps said, in a statement: “Public Law 111-024 does not apply to Corps projects or facilities . . . [and the Army Corps] will continue to prohibit loaded concealed weapons on Corps properties regardless of the new law and notwithstanding any contrary provisions of state law.” -GunOwners.Org.

The bill has been introduced and it's current status is....
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr1865

 

[F350]

I can't help ya much with the camp ground; but hunting is legal on Corps land, is anything in season???

In Missouri where I just moved from they have a terrible feral hog problem (and people releasing Russian hogs) so the state had an "any time, any place, any way" policy on hogs. So I always carried when on Corps land (I did usually have a rifle) and figured I would say "I'm hog hunting" if ever questioned.

 

[P238Shooter]

April 2020 update Making progress.
If this topic has not been updated elsewhere, USACE is taking comments until June 12, 2020 on allowing firearms carry on all COE lands and lakes to fit individual State regulations as many of the other National Park type area regulations. More info and where to comment can be found at

Regulations.gov

www.regulations.gov

 

[color of law]

April 2020 update Making progress.
If this topic has not been updated elsewhere, USACE is taking comments until June 12, 2020 on allowing firearms carry on all COE lands and lakes to fit individual State regulations as many of the other National Park type area regulations. More info and where to comment can be found at

Regulations.gov

www.regulations.gov

Bad link. Try this.

Rules and Regulations Governing Public Use of Water Resource Development Projects Administered by the Chief of Engineers

The Department of the Army, through the United States Army Corps of Engineers (``Corps''), is soliciting comments on its proposed revision of its regulation that governs the possession and transportation of firearms and other weapons at Corps water resources development projects (``projects'')....

www.federalregister.gov

 

[P238Shooter]

Thanks for fixing this. I noticed it did not post what I tried to paste for some reason but did not know how to fix it.

 

[jmmemoli]

I'm sure every park and person is different, but the personnel I've spoken to, pretty much follow the don't ask / don't tell philosophy.

 

[solus]

quote CoL's cite, quote
Specifically, the proposed revision would remove the requirement that an individual obtain written permission before possessing a weapon on a Corps project, which is a requirement except when the possession occurs for certain authorized recreation purposes. In doing so, the revised regulation would permit an individual to possess a weapon and associated ammunition when the possession both complies with the Federal, state, and local law where the project is located, and the individual is not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing the weapon. This change would reduce the burden on the public by eliminating the requirement to obtain written permission before possessing a weapon, but it would not change the fact that individuals already may, at present, possess weapons on Corps projects if they receive appropriate permission. unquote