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sohighlyunlikely

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I went to Hazelwoods page and clicked the link for ordinances and that is what is listed on sullivanpublications.com for Hazelwood. no matter how i search for it, I can not find what you have posted. Can you post a link for it.

I am with you on that one. read hazelwoods codes as well and found no requirement for CCW. LMTD can you make sure you were reading the correct city codes. I will glad if we ever get rid of this city to city mubo jumbo.

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I am with you on that one. read hazelwoods codes as well and found no requirement for CCW. LMTD can you make sure you were reading the correct city codes. I will glad if we ever get rid of this city to city mubo jumbo.

Doc

Here are screen shots, they clearly show I am on the Hazelwood folder, the code numbers etc, it is restricted and then relieved in paragraph D like so many others, I have yet to see another code ON IT at all, but I have no reason to doubt anyone.
 

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Here are screen shots, they clearly show I am on the Hazelwood folder, the code numbers etc, it is restricted and then relieved in paragraph D like so many others, I have yet to see another code ON IT at all, but I have no reason to doubt anyone.

You are showing the codes of another city. Even when you are in the hazelwood folder if you do a search it pulls from the master cry list. Not the open folder.

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I do not know how to do a screen shot or do not have the capabilities to do it, but here is the ordinance I think everyone including me are finding. Sorry only way I know how to post it.

SECTION 215.130: DEFINITIONS

Editor's Note--Ord. no. 3511-04 §1, adopted March 3, 2004, repealed section 215.130, "unlawful use of weapons" and enacted new provisions set out in sections 215.130--215.136. Former section 215.130 derived from CC 1997 §22.7; ord. no. 1997-87, 9-16-87; ord. no. 2717-96, 1-17-96.

As used in this Article, the following terms shall have the meanings indicated herein:

ANTIQUE, CURIO OR RELIC FIREARM: Any firearm so defined by the National Gun Control Act, 18 U.S.C. Title 26, Section 5845, and the United States Treasury/Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, 27 CFR Section 178.11:

1. Antique firearm is any firearm not designed or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898, said ammunition not being manufactured any longer; this includes any matchlock, wheel lock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type ignition system or replica thereof;

2. Curio or relic firearm is any firearm deriving value as a collectible weapon due to its unique design, ignition system, operation or at least fifty (50) years old, associated with a historical event, renown personage or major war.

BLACKJACK: Any instrument that is designed or adapted for the purpose of stunning or inflicting physical injury by striking a person, and which is readily capable of lethal use.

CONCEALABLE FIREARM: Any firearm with a barrel less than sixteen (16) inches in length, measured from the face of the bolt or standing breech.

DEFACE: To alter or destroy the manufacturer's or importer's serial number or any other distinguishing number or identification mark.

EXPLOSIVE WEAPON: Any explosive, incendiary or poison gas bomb or similar device designed or adapted for the purpose of inflicting death, serious physical injury or substantial property damage; or any device designed or adapted for delivering or shooting such a weapon.

FIREARM: Any weapon that is designed or adapted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive.

FIREARM SILENCER: Any instrument, attachment or appliance that is designed or adapted to muffle the noise made by the firing of any firearm.

GAS GUN: Any gas ejection device, weapon, cartridge, container or contrivance other than a gas bomb that is designed or adapted for the purpose of ejecting any poison gas that will cause death or serious physical injury, but not any device that ejects a repellant or temporary incapacitating substance.

INTOXICATED: Substantially impaired mental or physical capacity resulting from introduction of any substance into the body.

KNIFE: Any dagger, dirk, stiletto or bladed hand instrument that is readily capable of inflicting serious physical injury or death by cutting or stabbing a person. For purposes of this Chapter, "knife" does not include any ordinary pocketknife with no blade more than four (4) inches in length.

KNUCKLES: Any instrument that consists of finger rings or guards made of a hard substance that is designed or adapted for the purpose of inflicting serious physical injury or death by striking a person with a fist enclosed in the knuckles.

MACHINE GUN: Any firearm that is capable of firing more than one (1) shot automatically, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

PROJECTILE WEAPON: Any bow, crossbow, pellet gun, slingshot or other weapon that is not a firearm, which is capable of expelling a projectile that could inflict serious physical injury or death by striking or piercing a person.

RIFLE: Any firearm designed or adapted to be fired from the shoulder and to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed metallic cartridge to fire a projectile through a rifled bore by a single function of the trigger.

SHORT BARREL: A barrel length of less than sixteen (16) inches for a rifle and eighteen (18) inches for a shotgun, both measured from the face of the bolt or standing breech, or an overall rifle or shotgun length of less than twenty-six (26) inches.

SHOTGUN: Any firearm designed or adapted to be fired from the shoulder and to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire a number of shot or a single projectile through a smooth bore barrel by a single function of the trigger.

SPRING GUN: Any fused, timed or non-manually controlled trap or device designed or adapted to set off an explosion for the purpose of inflicting serious physical injury or death.

STUN GUN OR TASER: Any device which is powered by electrical charging units, such as batteries, and which, upon contact with a human or clothing worn by a human, can send out a current capable of disrupting the person's nervous system in such a manner as to render him incapable of normal functioning, or any device which is powered by electrical charging units, such as batteries, and which fires one (1) or several barbs attached to a length of wire, and which, upon hitting a human, can send out a current capable of disrupting the person's nervous system in such a manner as to render him incapable of normal functioning.

SWITCHBLADE KNIFE: Any knife which has a blade that folds or closes into the handle or sheath, and

1. That opens automatically by pressure applied to a button or other device located on the handle; or

2. That opens or releases from the handle or sheath by the force of gravity or by the application of centrifugal force. (Ord. No. 3511-04 §1, 3-3-04)

Section 215.131: UNLAWFUL USE OF WEAPONS -- EXCEPTIONS

A. A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:

1. Carries concealed upon or about his or her person a knife, a firearm, a blackjack, bow and arrow (steel-tipped), stun gun, taser or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use; or

2. Sets a spring gun; or

3. Discharges or shoots a firearm into a dwelling house, a railroad train, boat, aircraft or motor vehicle as defined in Section 302.010, RSMo., or any building or structure used for the assembling of people; or

4. Exhibits, in the presence of one (1) or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner; or

5. Possesses or discharges a firearm or projectile weapon while intoxicated; or

6. Discharges a firearm within one hundred (100) yards of any occupied schoolhouse, courthouse or church building; or

7. Discharges or shoots a firearm at a mark, at any object, or at random on, along or across a public highway or discharges or shoots a firearm into any outbuilding; or

8. Carries a firearm or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any church or place where people have assembled for worship, or into any election precinct on any election day, or into any building owned or occupied by any agency of the Federal Government, State Government or political subdivision thereof; or

9. Discharges or shoots a firearm at or from a motor vehicle as defined in Section 301.010, RSMo., discharges or shoots a firearm at any person, or at any other motor vehicle, or at any building or habitable structure, unless the person was lawfully acting in self-defense; or

10. Carries a firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any school, onto any school bus, or onto the premises of any function or activity sponsored or sanctioned by school officials or the district school board.

B. Subsections (1), (3), (4), (6), (7), (8), (9) and (10) of Subsection (A) of this Section shall not apply to or affect any of the following:

1. All State, County and municipal Peace Officers possessing the duty and power of arrest for violation of the general criminal laws of the State or for violation of ordinances of Counties or municipalities of the State, whether such officers are within or outside their jurisdictions or on or off duty, or any person summoned by such officers to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while actually engaged in assisting such officer;

2. Wardens, superintendents and keepers of prisons, penitentiaries, jails and other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of crime;

3. Members of the Armed Forces or National Guard while performing their official duty;

4. Those persons vested by Article V, Section 1 of the Constitution of Missouri with the judicial power of the State and those persons vested by Article III of the Constitution of the United States with the judicial power of the United States, the members of the Federal judiciary;

5. Any person whose bona fide duty is to execute process, civil or criminal;

6. Any Federal Probation Officer;

7. Any State Probation or Parole Officer, including supervisors and members of the Board of Probation and Parole;

8. Any corporate security advisor meeting the definition and fulfilling the requirements of the regulations established by the Board of Police Commissioners under Section 84.340, RSMo.; and

9. Any coroner, deputy coroner, medical examiner or assistant medical examiner.

C. Subsections (1), (5), (8) and (10) of Subsection (A) of this Section do not apply when the actor is transporting such weapons in a non-functioning state or in an unloaded state when ammunition is not readily accessible or when such weapons are not readily accessible. Subsection (1) of Subsection (A) of this Section does not apply to any person twenty-one (21) years of age or older transporting a concealable firearm in the passenger compartment of a motor vehicle, so long as such concealable firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed, nor when the actor is also in possession of an exposed firearm or projectile weapon for the lawful pursuit of game, or is in his or her dwelling unit or upon premises over which the actor has possession, authority or control, or is traveling in a continuous journey peaceably through this State. Subsection (10) of Subsection (A) of this Section does not apply if the firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed by a person while traversing school premises for the purposes of transporting a student to or from school, or possessed by an adult for the purposes of facilitation of a school-sanctioned firearm-related event.

D. Subsections (1), (8) and (10) of Subsection (A) of this Section shall not apply to any person who has a valid concealed carry endorsement issued pursuant to Sections 571.101 to 571.121, RSMo., or a valid permit or endorsement to carry concealed firearms issued by another State or political subdivision of another State.

E. Subsections (3), (4), (5), (6), (7), (8), (9) and (10) of Subsection (A) of this Section shall not apply to persons who are engaged in a lawful act of defense pursuant to Section 563.031, RSMo.

F. Nothing in this Section shall make it unlawful for a student to actually participate in school-sanctioned gun safety courses, student military or ROTC courses, or other school-sponsored firearm-related events, provided the student does not carry a firearm or other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any school, onto any school bus, or onto the premises of any other function or activity sponsored or sanctioned by school officials or the district school board.

G. Any person knowingly aiding or abetting any other person in the violation of Subsection (9) of Subsection (A) of this Section shall be subject to the same penalty as that prescribed by this Section for violations by other persons. (Ord. No. 3511-04 §1, 3-3-04)
 

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You are showing the codes of another city. Even when you are in the hazelwood folder if you do a search it pulls from the master cry list. Not the open folder.

Doc

That is interesting because it has worked many times before, however I agree, it is indeed not working on Hazelwood.
 

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Well now I am in trouble no !!!

I forgot that Sunday is my future mother in-law's 70th birthday!

I am not sure what level of an issue this is at this time but it cuts me back from the +1 for sure and it may indeed mean I do not attend. I have to get a better feel for this today and inform tonight or tomorrow.

At this point I am not in favor of canceling, scheduling this tour has been a pain in the butt from the beginning.

I simply can not speak to it at this time, the b-day thing hit me yesterday and I did not think about us not returning from Springfield before 5pm.

I will provide more feedback but t this point I would like others to attend and I will deal with my end as it works out, if I do not make it, by all means enjoy the chips and salsa!
 

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I forgot that Sunday is my future mother in-law's 70th birthday!

I am not sure what level of an issue this is at this time but it cuts me back from the +1 for sure and it may indeed mean I do not attend. I have to get a better feel for this today and inform tonight or tomorrow.

At this point I am not in favor of canceling, scheduling this tour has been a pain in the butt from the beginning.

I simply can not speak to it at this time, the b-day thing hit me yesterday and I did not think about us not returning from Springfield before 5pm.

I will provide more feedback but t this point I would like others to attend and I will deal with my end as it works out, if I do not make it, by all means enjoy the chips and salsa!

I'm not sure if I'm going, dentist Friday (OUCH) and it's not exactly in my back yard...
Some one will have to salt the chips if you don't go!
 

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Some one will have to salt the chips if you don't go!

Looks like that is the case, latest blood work continued to have my sodium levels 60 to 70% below normal! That salt craving is weird as can be!

After a short conversation with the fiance' I am indeed driving to Springfield tonight, otherwise she would be doing so and returning tomorrow on her own which she is more than capable of but is not desired, family first.

I will shoot the owner a note letting him know of the change in plans and will work MY final Chevy's tour date later.

I fully support any whom had plans to attend to do so, just remember the rules about entering and the managers know we are coming.

I enjoy Chevy's a lot but being in OFallon I will frequent the location NEAR me, but I will indeed host one more at the Hazelwood location at a later date, I hope others do go tonight as well, I simply can not attend but will indeed OC my way to Springfield and while there.
 

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I am currently waiting for my dear maiden to get off work so we may proceed to springfield. Looks like the Chevy's for tomorrow is likely dead, I will pick a date following the Pacific meet which I plan on attending. We still need to hit TROY in a big way as well so it may follow that, hopefully when we get through Aug we can have some decent temps and do a BBQ in Bridgeton, we are indeed still working on that one but I do not see anyone jumping up and down to be outside for three or four hours in the heat wave we got goin now!

Perhaps we can get enough advanced planning and notice done some of the outstaters can plan on attending as well.

Thanks to all who were planning on supporting the tour, but I think it best to proclaim it as CANCELED to be rescheduled!

Rich
 

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I am currently waiting for my dear maiden to get off work so we may proceed to springfield. Looks like the Chevy's for tomorrow is likely dead, I will pick a date following the Pacific meet which I plan on attending. We still need to hit TROY in a big way as well so it may follow that, hopefully when we get through Aug we can have some decent temps and do a BBQ in Bridgeton, we are indeed still working on that one but I do not see anyone jumping up and down to be outside for three or four hours in the heat wave we got goin now!

Perhaps we can get enough advanced planning and notice done some of the outstaters can plan on attending as well.

Thanks to all who were planning on supporting the tour, but I think it best to proclaim it as CANCELED to be rescheduled!

Rich

I hope everyone sees this!
I'll send some emails...
 

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I saw in the news a couple of nights ago that the Columbia Chevy's closed suddenly and without more than a day or two's notice. Stated they closed due to "economic climate" after twelve years of business. Guess the three of us didn't help out too much.
 
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